Hi Matthew, On Apr 13, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Matthew Adams wrote:
If the current transaction is optimistic and active, then getDataStoreConnection() should cause the optimistic transaction to be converted to a datastore transaction and the returned object will be enlisted in the newly begun datastore transaction.
I'm not completely sure about your proposed wording, since there are interrogatives that allow you to ask whether the transaction is optimistic or datastore, so "converting the optimistic transaction to datastore" might not be the right wording. Were you thinking that after flush, getOptimistic() would return true or false?
But I agree with the intent. That is, after flush() or getDataStoreConnection(true) the connection to the datastore will be enlisted in a native datastore transaction until the end of the JDO transaction.
Craig
This is a result that is consistent with the proposal but should probably be made explicit in the first paragraph of the proposal. Here's the updated one:<proposed updated-by="matthew"> Connection getDataStoreConnection() This method is equivalent to getDataStoreConnection (pm.currentTransaction().isActive()). That is, it defaults to getDataStoreConnection(true) if a JDO transaction is active, and getDataStoreConnection(false) if not. If the JDO transaction is optimistic and active, then it is converted to a datastore transaction and the returned object is enlisted in the newly begun datastore transaction. JDOConnection getDataStoreConnection(boolean enlist) This method returns either a JDOConnection whose underlying native connection is enlisted in the native datastore transaction in use by the persistence manager; or a JDOConnection whose underlying native connection is not enlisted in any native transaction. An unenlisted connection is set to auto-commit if using a data source that has this concept (e.g. JDBC). If this method is called outside an active transaction, with the enlist parameter false, the object returned will not be enlisted in any transaction. If this method is called outside an activetransaction, with the enlist parameter true, JDOUserException is thrown.If this method is called while a datastore transaction is active, with the enlist parameter false, the object returned will not be enlisted in any transaction. If this method is called while a datastore transaction is active, with the enlist parameter true, the object returned will be enlisted in the current native datastore transaction. If this method is called while an optimistic transaction is active, with the enlist parameter false, the object returned will not be enlisted in any transaction. If this method is called while an optimistic transaction is active, and the enlist parameter is true, a native datastore transaction is begun if not already begun, and the object returned will be enlisted in the current native datastore transaction. </proposed>-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:36 AM To: Apache JDO project; JDO Expert Group Subject: Re: enlistment of native connections for optimistic txs Hi Guido, A new proposal is attached below. On Apr 10, 2007, at 2:03 AM, Guido Anzuoni wrote:Craig L Russell wrote:Hi Erik, Thanks for clarifying your proposal. I agree that this improves portability, but with a penalty. You can no longer use optimistic concurrency once you decide to do some native SQL, even if you don't ever perform any INSERT, DELETE, or UPDATEstatements. And this will have negative performance consequences forsome applications. While backward compatibility is important, I would agree with you thatcorrectness is even more important. So it doesn't bother me too muchif we change the semantic so that by default, getting a datastore connection is equivalent to doing a flush in an optimistic transaction. But I'd still like to give the user the ability to get the same level of performance they now enjoy by deferring the enlistment in the datastore transaction to flush or commit.So how about adding a flag that defaults to true if not specified toenlist the datastore connection in the datastore transaction? <proposed> Connection getDataStoreConnection() This method is equivalent to getDataStoreConnection(true).Seems like the default should be different based on whether you are in a JDO transaction. So maybe the default should be getDataStoreConnection (pm.currentTransaction().isActive())Connection getDataStoreConnection(boolean enlist) If this method is called outside an active transaction, the object returned will not be enlisted in any transaction, regardless of the setting of the enlist parameter.In this case, the user does not know that his request has not been honored.Maybe it makes sense to throw a JDOUserException, since there is no transaction in which to enlist the connection, and the default is false. A user can only get the exception by asking for something that is impossible.If it is called while a datastore transaction is active, the objectreturned will be enlisted in the current transaction, regardless ofthe setting of the enlist parameter.Again, the implementation might do something different from what requested.Right, either a non-enlisted connection (enlist==false) or the connection enlisted in the current transaction. The use case for this is to grab a non-enlisted connection that is used e.g. to get a sequence number that will never be rolled back.If it is called while an optimistic transaction is active, and the enlist parameter is true, a datastore transaction is begun if not already begun, and the object returned will be enlisted in the current datastore transaction. If it is called while an optimistic transaction is active,the enlistparameter is false, and a datastore transaction is alreadybegun, theobject returned will be enlisted in the datastore transaction.Same as aboveRight, either a separate non-enlisted connection (enlist==false) or the connection enlisted in the current transaction (enlist==true).If it is called while an optimistic transaction is active,the enlistparameter is false, and a datastore transaction is notalready begun,the object returned will not be enlisted in any datastore transaction. </proposed>What if the user issues some INSERT, DELETE, UPDATE ?This is the user's choice, which is not a default behavior, but something explicitly asked for. The default will always be to get an enlisted connection, and the only way to get a non-enlisted connection is to ask for it.Is it possible to call conn.commit() ?Yes, the non-enlisted connection changes were already committed (auto-commit). We should add this to the spec, that the non-enlisted connection is auto-commit.I agree that there is a potential penalty in optimistic transactions if we blindly enlist native connections but, if we let the user know exactly what is going on, an aware decision can be taken. getDataStoreConnection() will always return the enlistedconnection ifany, otherwise null is returned (maybe getNativeConnection() could return null).I think that returning null is never the right behavior.Now, if the user wants to access a consistent backend, he HAVE to flush(), triggering connection enlistment (what if there are no pending updates ?).If the user wants to operate on an independent connection to the samedatastore used by the PM he could use what is configured in the PMF (OK, some helper methods might...help).I think that inventing a parallel mechanism is overkill if we can give users what the need from this one.It could be also achieved with a different handling of the proposed enlist flag for the 'false' scenarios, but it would be strange to request to the PM a datastore connection the PM is not using at all !!!. It would look like a data source.Yes, that's the intent. There is no need for the user to somehow go behind the scenes to figure out how the PMF is configured and get a connection from that same data source. Craig <proposed> Connection getDataStoreConnection() This method is equivalent to getDataStoreConnection (pm.currentTransaction().isActive()). That is, it defaults to getDataStoreConnection(true) is a JDO transaction is active, and getDataStoreConnection(false) if not. JDOConnection getDataStoreConnection(boolean enlist) This method returns either a JDOConnection whose underlying native connection is enlisted in the native datastore transaction in use by the persistence manager; or a JDOConnection whose underlying native connection is not enlisted in any native transaction. An unenlisted connection is set to auto-commit if using a data source that has this concept (e.g. JDBC). If this method is called outside an active transaction, with the enlist parameter false, the object returned will not be enlisted in any transaction. If this method is called outside an active transaction, with the enlist parameter true, JDOUserException is thrown. If this method is called while a datastore transaction is active, with the enlist parameter false, the object returned will not be enlisted in any transaction. If this method is called while a datastore transaction is active, with the enlist parameter true, the object returned will be enlisted in the current native datastore transaction. If this method is called while an optimistic transaction is active, with the enlist parameter false, the object returned will not be enlisted in any transaction. If this method is called while an optimistic transaction is active, and the enlist parameter is true, a native datastore transaction is begun if not already begun, and the object returned will be enlisted in the current native datastore transaction. </proposed> CraigGuido.Craig On Apr 8, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Erik Bengtson wrote:Hi,This is a change proposal to the spec with regards to enlistment ofnative connections when optimistic transactions are used. The enlistment of native connections into a JDO transaction is conditioned to the fact that a flush call has been performed before the connection is obtained. The flush call is a JDO implementation decision which can differ between different implementations. See the example: 1. tx.begin(); 2. //more operations here.... 3. JDOConnection conn = pm.getDataStoreConnection(); 4. Connection sqlconn = (Connection) conn.getNativeConnection(); 5. sqlconn.execute("DELETE FROM ANIMAL WHERE NAME = 'CAT'") 5. conn.close(); 6. tx.rollback(); There are two possible behaviors: - The JDO implementation decides to perform a flush between 1 and 3: the connection is enlisted, and DELETE all CATS from ANIMAL is rolled back - The JDO implementation decides to NOT perform a flush between 1 and 3: the connection is not enlisted, and DELETE all CATS from ANIMAL is not rolled back As you can see, this is not portable and not ACID, so I would like to propose that enlistment of connections is done whenever a transaction is opened. The change is to the following paragraph: The JDO spec ยง12.16 - getDataStoreConnection: "If this method is called while a datastore transaction is active, the object returned will be enlisted in the current transaction. If called in an optimistic transaction before flush has been called, or outside an active transaction, the object returned will not be enlisted in any transaction." AS: "If this method is called while a datastore or optimistctransactionis active,the object returned will be enlisted in the current transaction. Ifcalled outside an active transaction, the object returned will not be enlisted in any transaction."Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/ jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!Craig RussellArchitect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/ jdo408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
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