I think the general view is npm is notorious in general ;) 

In its defence it has done a reasonable job of embracing windows users in 
the past, and oft neglected community of developers (I know I all too 
easily neglect them). 



On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 6:43:16 PM UTC+10, Robert Sandell wrote:
>
> Well, in my experience NPM is notorious for not working well with proxies. 
> But maybe that has been fixed in the year and a half since I heard the 
> cries of my developers last :)
>
> /B
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Tom Fennelly <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> It seems inevitable to me that improving the Jenkins UI will involve 
>> changing how things are done today and that's going to involve introducing 
>> something else into the mix. There's no doubt that introducing something 
>> else into the mix can make life more difficult in some situation. I suppose 
>> the question is, do we think the pluses outweigh the minuses?
>>
>> On 7 September 2015 at 09:13, Stephen Connolly <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> My main concern is that we do not introduce a build tool that makes it 
>>> even more complicated to build Jenkins behind a corporate firewall, as that 
>>> could significantly impact some of the contributors.
>>>
>>> While this is not something that personally affects me in my day job, it 
>>> would have made it extremely difficult to make my initial contributions 
>>> during the 2006-2011 period when I was behind a corporate firewall (absence 
>>> the hacking on public transport).
>>>
>>> On 7 September 2015 at 08:51, Robert Sandell <[email protected] 
>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What about the existing adjunct support in stapler? 
>>>> That is meant to work as treating js, jelly et.al packages as maven 
>>>> modules.
>>>>
>>>> See for example https://github.com/stapler/stapler-adjunct-bootstrap, 
>>>> https://github.com/stapler/stapler-adjunct-jquery and 
>>>> https://github.com/stapler/stapler-adjunct-underscore
>>>>
>>>> /B
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Tom Fennelly <[email protected] 
>>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Surya. We're not inventing anything new for the bundling/packaging 
>>>>> part. It uses Browserify for that, which is similar to Webpack.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you are not against the idea of adding build steps to Jenkins core 
>>>>> re supporting modularised JavaScript?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6 Sep 2015, at 17:23, Surya Gaddipati <[email protected] 
>>>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been packaging all kinds of js stuff with webpack. Avoids all 
>>>>> kinds of problems with globals ect that you described. 
>>>>>  I am not quite sure if we need to invent a jenkins specific solution 
>>>>> here. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is an example using elm 
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/DotCi/DotCiPipelineViewer 
>>>>>
>>>>> example using react and co
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/groupon/DotCi 
>>>>>
>>>>> None of those leaks globals.
>>>>>
>>>>> Surya
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 7:32:01 AM UTC-5, Tom Fennelly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something that might help ... a description of the state of 
>>>>>> JavaScript in Jenkins as we see it 
>>>>>> <https://github.com/tfennelly/jenkins-js-modules#problem--motivation>
>>>>>> .
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