On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 5:20:42 AM UTC+5:30, Arshad Khan wrote: > > Hello, > > I want to ask some questions regarding the major concerns that you listed > in the email about my gsoc proposal. > > > lack of the new features (mostly redesign/styling focus) >> > > I had two major points in my mind i.e., usability and consistency. I did > not wanted to make unwanted changes to make something new. Configuration > section and Plugin section were the two main focus and as far as plugin > manager is concerned I had really tried to make it much more compact and > for configuration section I really believe that Gus Reiber design was good > and I accepted that. Jenkins is complex application and changing things > very much may affect its flow and cause problems. At the end of day, I did > what I felt right but if proposal was lacking this point then why there > were no suggestions given. > > unclear changes scope > > > If these were the issues that you see then why don't you or anyone else > from jenkins, mentioned it when proposal were being reviewed on the basis > of their quality and scope. I attended all the office hours meetings and > tried to get maximum feedback about my proposal everytime and changed my > proposal accordingly, asking (especially Oleg) whether there were some > things that my proposal is missing. You said to draft the proposal after > the first look. > > > private messages to mentors after several recommendations to use public >> channels > > > I send most of the private messages to you asking about proposal and all > the stuff where I faced some sort of difficulty. When I was looking for a > mentor for jenkins 2..0 project then I tried to contact R.Tyler Croy, > Daniel Beck and other mentors asking them for mentorship via emails and > irc. I was very motivated to work with jenkins that's why I send then > private mails so that my message get heard atleast. > I tried to get some help on private IRC chat and got scolded for pinging > in person. I wish I would have got scolded much earlier or my mentor had > mentioned this point very strictly if this thing values so much. Every > single message was about jenkins or asking for help. > Now I learnt it the hard way that talking openly values so much but one > thing that keep* I dont see any open talk about project or any > contribution from the student that got selected.* I think, I learned > another lesson here that *valuable*-contributions, motivation and > commitment are not the things that counts but the abiding rules count much > more in Jenkins OSS. > > balancing between WebUI and website projects > > > I tried to contribute to jenkins in any possible way long time before > Oleg send mail to all gsoc students to contribute to jenkins in any > possible ways. Theme of web ui project was UI improvements and I saw > website's bad UI as a good opportunity to portray my skills that I can do > the things that I had written in my proposal. I dont know how others > perceived it. When I have drafted proposal for only one project then why I > would be interested in doing some other project and long after that comes > the point of balancing. I tried to ask some important things and avoid > silly questions, but unfortunately vice-versa happened. I was learning > jelly, xml and revising concepts of Js but in mean time I thought it would > be even more better to spend my free time to contribute to jenkins. I did > every single thing that I mentioned in my proposal. > > I made some small tweaks in main jenkins app ui and some other stuff that > I found later in prs of jenkins repo as a improvements and asked Oleg > whether to open PRs for small tweaks or not but no reply came. > > I am asking these question for feedback and not from hostility or to make > arguments, this is my raw experience that I had in last one and half month. > I tried my level best and gave 100% from the day I saw jenkins project on > GSoC that's why I really think it is worthy to ask these question. > > >
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