Hello Mark,

In advance, thanks for your feedback.

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2016-08-04 21:27 GMT+02:00 Mark Waite <[email protected]>:
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 12:46 PM Manuel Jesús Recena Soto <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Oliver,
>>
>> I like the idea.
>>
>> General speaking, ATH and PCT are very important and we should look after 
>> its healthy.
>>
>> IMHO, PCT results are a nice place to figure out bad symptoms on some 
>> plugins.
>>
>
> Can you describe the types of symptoms you envision detecting with PCT?
>
> I am interested in running the plugin tests with a different jenkins.version 
> value, after compiling with an unmodified jenkins.version value.  That seems 
> like an interesting test alternative that might surface interesting 
> differences in the test harnesses or the core code.
>
> I'm not really interested in having some external automation tell me that the 
> current code does not compile with the latest Jenkins core.  JENKINS-36646 
> seems like the same condition I see, failure to compile with the newer 
> Jenkins version because code changes are required before the plugin can 
> depend on the newer version.
>

1. You can always ignore that information. There may be developers
interested on it.
2. I totally agree with you that JENKINS-36646 is not a bug, but
something that it should be investigate. I'd say: a task.

> I update the Jenkins core dependency rarely and with great care.  A bug 
> report like JENKINS-36646 is a distraction rather than a help, since I will 
> see the compilation failure as soon as I prepare the change for the plugin to 
> support the new Jenkins core version.
>
> For example, the git plugin 3.0.0-beta already has the necessary change to 
> compile with more recent Jenkins core, but the automation probably won't know 
> that it needs to evaluate a beta version on a different branch than master.
>

IMHO, when we find this situation: a plugin based on an old Jenkins
base line + not recent releases > bad symptom (a red flag in my
production environments).

PCT helps on these cases.

Regards,

> Mark Waite
>
>>
>> Please, find here two issues as result of PCT: JENKINS-36646 and 
>> JENKINS-36623
>>
>> What we maybe need is make more usable and accessible this information.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> 2016-08-03 15:31 GMT+02:00 Oliver Gondža <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I created an issue[1] to verify if all recommended plugins has passing 
>>> unittest when run against latest core. I would like to use that as a GA 
>>> criteria for releases, LTS ones at least.
>>>
>>> I see people are still updating plugin-compat-tester so I guess it is not 
>>> dead, though I did not manage to find any recent documentation or running 
>>> CI job. Can it be used to implement that? Is somebody working on this?
>>>
>>> [1] https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-37145
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