I think the presence of the "CloudBees" as a prefix has such overriding clarity in terms of the origin of the effort, that I'm having hard time imagining that creates a confusion in that regard. It is true that they share the same "Metrics" part, but that's not the trademarked part.
That said, I inquired on this point and I learned that it is technically true that there exists a jpi file whose display name is "CloudBees Jenkins Metrics plugin." But Metrics plugin and CloudBees Jenkins Metrics operate on different planes. Metrics plugin is a library plugin, and it's by and large relevant only for those who "open the engine room." CloudBees Jenkins Metrics is a feature of a product that show up in brochures and collateral. It's a little bit like workflow-*-plugin and Pipeline. The former is a unit of distribution and development and a concern to contributors, the latter is a unit of feature and a concern to users. In addition to that, CloudBees Jenkins Metrics plugin is not distributed the same way Metrics plugin is. The former is a restricted access plugin that's only available to customers, and the latter is a plugin that's on the community update center. On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 6:41 AM Stephen Connolly < [email protected]> wrote: > I personally find that the proposed name could cause confusion with the > Metrics plugin, however given that the Metrics plugin was developed on > company time, I feel it would be disingenuous of me to leverage a > side-effect of being paid to do that development that has resulted in me > being the maintainer of the plugin in order to apply my personal opinions > to the same company. > > In any case, as an employee of CloudBees, I feel I have to recuse myself > from the debate. > > > On Thursday, 8 March 2018 12:46:22 UTC, Oleg Nenashev wrote: >> >> Generally the request looks good to me. >> OTOH it would be great to get feedback from the maintainer of the Metrics >> Plugin <https://wiki.jenkins.io/display/JENKINS/Metrics+Plugin> (Stephen >> Connolly?). >> If CloudBees plans to release a "CloudBees Jenkins Metrics Plugin" as a >> part of this new product, it may cause some confusion. >> >> BR, Oleg >> >> On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 5:29:40 PM UTC+1, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote: >>> >>> On behalf of CloudBees, I’d like to request the permission to use the >>> following name that uses ‘Jenkins’ in it: >>> >>> - CloudBees Jenkins Metrics >>> >>> To help people understand how this name is going to be used, let me >>> describe a bit about the effort for which we’d like to use this name. >>> >>> Back several years ago, we have requested the sublicense to use >>> ‘CloudBees Jenkins Analytics,’ which was subsequently approved >>> <https://wiki.jenkins.io/display/JENKINS/Approved+Trademark+Usage>. It >>> is a feature that is a part of our products. It has evolved since then, and >>> we’d like to give it a new name to more accurately reflect what it is. >>> >>> When we look at name approval requests like this, a key criteria is to >>> make sure it doesn’t create confusion about the origin of the effort. From >>> that perspective, this name has ‘CloudBees’ clearly in front of it, and it >>> is consistent with other names that are already approved. The situation and >>> the considerations that led to the approval of the past requests hasn't >>> really changed, so I hope the new name doesn’t raise any eyebrows and >>> result in a smooth approval. >>> >>> I’ve put this up as an agenda for Mar 14th project meeting to be able to >>> get a decision there. If you have any concerns or objections, please chime >>> in on this thread prior to the meeting, so that we can address them. >>> >>> -- >>> Kohsuke Kawaguchi >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/a24547c6-32e1-4a75-9fc9-a1666ef8cf5a%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/a24547c6-32e1-4a75-9fc9-a1666ef8cf5a%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Kohsuke Kawaguchi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAN4CQ4wL6Q3_qDGw%3DtJGQvupooBEgckFDa43YepTg4DiEtLAtg%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
