Hi Kohsuke,

To be honest, theres's a lot to digest. *I encourage everyone to read the
details rather than skim the headlines* as the entirety of what you're
talking about is meat rather than fluff.

I think there are a couple bits that are somewhat vague or misunderstood.
The relationship between Jenkins, Jenkins X, Cloud Native Jenkins, Jenkins
Jolt, etc. is probably one of the most confusing or misunderstood parts of
the ecosystem to people who are not particularly familiar with the
projects. On the surface, it could appear that some of these are
contradictory or completely different things. Perhaps there could be some
name mangling of the projects that make things a bit more clear where they
fall in the ecosystem, along with a plan to align the parts that make sense
would be welcomed.

Cheers,
-Keith

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:39 PM Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, I just wanted to see what people thought of this? It created quite a
> reaction in places like Hacker News, but I'm not seeing any reaction in
> here, which is where I care the most.
>
> Have people had a chance to read/see it? I'm sure you will have opinions.
> Please let me know.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 1:33 PM Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I've just posted a message to the fellow Jenkins contributors on
>> jenkins.io: https://jenkins.io/blog/2018/08/31/shifting-gears/
>>
>> Any thoughts, feedbacks, etc are appreciated.
>>
>> Note that the pitch is at a pretty high level, and much of the things
>> need to be designed, discussed, implemented, and so on. Those discussions
>> will happen over coming days and months in here, SIGs, and JEPs, so I
>> suggest we don't turn this into a mega thread of everything that no one can
>> keep track of, like what happened with the email thread at the time of
>> Jenkins 2.
>> --
>> Kohsuke Kawaguchi
>>
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