On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:03 PM Keith Zantow <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Kohsuke,
>
> To be honest, theres's a lot to digest. *I encourage everyone to read the
> details rather than skim the headlines* as the entirety of what you're
> talking about is meat rather than fluff.
>
> I think there are a couple bits that are somewhat vague or misunderstood.
> The relationship between Jenkins, Jenkins X, Cloud Native Jenkins, Jenkins
> Jolt, etc. is probably one of the most confusing or misunderstood parts of
> the ecosystem to people who are not particularly familiar with the
> projects. On the surface, it could appear that some of these are
> contradictory or completely different things. Perhaps there could be some
> name mangling of the projects that make things a bit more clear where they
> fall in the ecosystem, along with a plan to align the parts that make sense
> would be welcomed.
>

OK, I hear a similar sentiment from a few more people, I think I can
provide some pictures to help.


>
> Cheers,
> -Keith
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:39 PM Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi, I just wanted to see what people thought of this? It created quite a
>> reaction in places like Hacker News, but I'm not seeing any reaction in
>> here, which is where I care the most.
>>
>> Have people had a chance to read/see it? I'm sure you will have opinions.
>> Please let me know.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 1:33 PM Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I've just posted a message to the fellow Jenkins contributors on
>>> jenkins.io: https://jenkins.io/blog/2018/08/31/shifting-gears/
>>>
>>> Any thoughts, feedbacks, etc are appreciated.
>>>
>>> Note that the pitch is at a pretty high level, and much of the things
>>> need to be designed, discussed, implemented, and so on. Those discussions
>>> will happen over coming days and months in here, SIGs, and JEPs, so I
>>> suggest we don't turn this into a mega thread of everything that no one can
>>> keep track of, like what happened with the email thread at the time of
>>> Jenkins 2.
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