Hello Tracy, I definitely do not mind offering more if we have funds :) Personally I think that the stipend is secondary. Students get experience from working with open-source organizations and highly experienced mentors who would not be available if they joined their local companies. Contributing to open-source also helps mentees to build their portfolio which is helpful in future job applications. Not all outreach programs offer stipends at all, and for me it is just a bonus to non-monetary benefits.
Just to explain how I calculated the budget: - I was using GSoC as a reference. GSoC offers considerably less money to students than Outreachy in the most of the regions. - GSoC stipend is 3000 USD in India <https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/help/student-stipends> which means 250 USD per week for fulltime. It is higher than common intern or junior engineer salaries in the region - In the case of Sladyn, the Dev List proposal also includes sponsorship of a Jenkins World trip. It might be from 500 USD (standard Jenkins travel grant) to full coverage (~1500USD) if we decide to do so After a discussion with Sladyn, the final target numbers are 3 months and 30hrs per week. So the timeframe is equal to GSoC coding phase, and for 30hrs.per week the GSoC expectation would be 2250 USD. It is a higher time investment than I expected, so we could indeed increase the budget. To follow the pattern proposed by Tracy, let me propose few options for the discussion at the governance meeting: - 1500 USD + 500 USD travel grant. Minimum option we discussed and agreed on with Sladyn. It is almost on par with GSoC though "travel grant" cannot be compared with non-binding payment - 1500 USD + 1500 USD travel grant. This is my previous expectation with explicit travel grant dedicated for Jenkins World in Lisbon - 3000 USD + 500 USD travel grant - Equal to GSoC for full-time, with extra standard travel grant - 5500 USD + 500 USD - Equal to Outreachy Opinions? BR, Oleg On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 10:21:27 PM UTC+2, Tracy Miranda wrote: > > Hi, > > I think this will be great to do, thanks Oleg! > > One comment about the amount - it sounds like it could be on the low side. > For Outreachy interns get ~500 USD per full time week (40hrs) (or overall > $5500 + $500 travel grant for 3 months). > I think this is the right ballpark for what Jenkins (and then CDF projects > thereafter) can aim to pay for any internships, adjusting accordingly for > part time work, etc. > > Tracy > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 6:26 AM Tim Jacomb <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> +1 >> >> It's a great initiative, thanks Oleg for your work in getting this setup. >> >> Cheers >> Tim >> >> On Monday, 29 July 2019 10:42:38 UTC+1, Oleg Nenashev wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I would like to request a budget for a new Outreach program we were >>> discussing few times before in Platform, Docs and Advocacy and Outreach >>> SIGs. This program is powered by Community Bridge >>> <https://communitybridge.org/> project. This is a new Outreach service >>> created by Linux Foundation, and we would be interested to use it to >>> accommodate projects which we were unable to run in GSoC/GSoD this year. We >>> had an overview of this program at the Advocacy and Outreach SIG meeting on >>> June 6th (video <https://youtu.be/Zi_IxFySFBg?t=641>, meeting notes >>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K5dTSqe56chFhDSGNfg_MCy-LmseUs_S3ys_tg60sTs/edit#heading=h.vvw54obc99zh> >>> ). >>> >>> We have a student (Sladyn Nunes <https://github.com/Sladyn98>) who is >>> pretty active in the community now. He has already applied to the community >>> bridge project, and he is interested in the Configuration-as-Code project >>> (compatibility, development tools). You can find his proposal >>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aPfkmyMQRCcipVa0htFt-i7X_pkQHSVKfR5qT60HQZ8/edit?usp=sharing> >>> here. >>> he has already done some contributions, and JCasC plugin team is ready to >>> mentor the student (Joseph Petersen and Tim Jacomb would be lead >>> mentors). Focus of the project: JCasC schema validation fixes and IDE >>> integrations. >>> >>> The plan is to have the student working on the project for few months >>> with 20+ hours per week time dedication. >>> >>> What I ask for? >>> >>> - Student grant/stipend - 1500 USD >>> - If the project is successful, travel grant to Jenkins World 2019 >>> in Lisbon or a similar event >>> - Our default travel grant policy is 500 USD, but the trip is >>> going to be more expensive. I would like to request a bigger grant if >>> possible >>> >>> Please let me know if any additional information is needed. >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> Oleg >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Jenkins Developers" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/fdfc414d-2b34-4f44-b2a6-edaa4179ad1c%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/fdfc414d-2b34-4f44-b2a6-edaa4179ad1c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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