It's possible we could test on a Windows 10 VM on Azure/AWS. I could look
into that.

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 12:46 PM Mark Waite <[email protected]>
wrote:

> +1 from me.  I test Windows 10 more than I test any other Windows
> version.  I'm quite fine with it being Tier 1 or Tier 2.  Either is fine
> with me.
>
> On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 1:14:55 PM UTC-6, Oleg Nenashev wrote:
>>
>> The policy draft was approved at the last governance meeting. After it
>> there were some changes in the pull request, mostly spelling ones. The only
>> notable change is moving Windows 10 amd-64 support from Tier 1 to Tier 2,
>> because we do not actually test it in our CICD flows.
>>
>> Tier 2 still means "supported", so I think we are fine. Is everyone fine
>> with merging the support policy?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Oleg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:13:10 PM UTC+2, Oleg Nenashev wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have submitted a pull request with a draft policy:
>>> https://github.com/jenkins-infra/jenkins.io/pull/3295 .
>>> I will appreciate any feedback from those who is running Jenkins on
>>> Windows.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Oleg
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 3:02:04 PM UTC+2, Olblak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I like Oleg proposition very much as it clarifies the different levels
>>>> of support, and it solves Daniel concerned.
>>>> We won't run any tests on deprecated infrastructure like XP.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Oleg Nenashev wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Taking the feedback, should we introduce support levels like we do with
>>>> the browser support policy?
>>>>
>>>> * Level 1 - full support. We run automated testing for these platforms
>>>>   - amd64 versions of latest Windows and Windows Server versions, with
>>>> the latest GA update pack (we will need to specify editions in the final
>>>> policy)
>>>>   - versions in our soon-to-be-official Docker packages (at the moment:
>>>> windowsservercore and nanoserver 1809)
>>>> * Level 2 - generally supported. We do not actively test it, but we
>>>> intend to keep compatibility, and we are happy to accept patches
>>>>   - Windows and Windows Server 64bit versions which are generally
>>>> supported by MS
>>>> * Level 3 - Best effort - We will consider patches if they do not put
>>>> Level 1/2 support at risk and if they do not create bug maintenance
>>>> overhead. Support may have limitations and extra requirements. We do not
>>>> test compatibility, and we may drop support if there is a need
>>>>   - x86 and other non-amd64 architectures
>>>>   - "exotic" windows versions like Windows Embedded
>>>>   - Preview releases and updates by Microsoft
>>>>   - Windows API emulation systems like Wine or ReactOS
>>>> * Level 4 - Unsupported
>>>>   - Platforms and OS versions which are known to be incompatible or
>>>> which have severe limitations
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Oleg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 02:05 Daniel Beck <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On 10. Apr 2020, at 14:26, Oleg Nenashev <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I know for sure that there are Jenkins users running on Windows XP
>>>>
>>>> That's no reason to enable this insanity.
>>>>
>>>> I would advocate for just going with what's generally supported by
>>>> Microsoft: Extended support would be in, "throwing bags of money at
>>>> Microsoft" support is out, i.e. Windows 7 would have been unsupported since
>>>> January.
>>>>
>>>> This approach would also address the problem of not having to manually
>>>> keep the policy up to date. As we've seen with the browser support policy,
>>>> nobody will update it.
>>>> Additionally, this has the benefit of being fairly objective criteria,
>>>> and would also save us from having to have this conversation again in two
>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> (And TBH I would just ignore Windows Embedded Industry, seems like a
>>>> lot of effort for very few users.)
>>>>
>>>> Note also that this doesn't mean that Jenkins on these OSes would
>>>> necessarily immediately break. If there's a new enough .NET Framework or
>>>> whatever on Windows 7, and there's no reason to go with something newer,
>>>> then Windows 7 will just continue to work. But users would know that they
>>>> cannot indefinitely rely on it.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously I'm +1 for whatever makes it easier for you to support these
>>>> components, even if it's just small steps.
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