I've thought about writing an app that would give you a Jenkins Plugin
Archive with all the plugins and their dependencies, but I haven't gotten
around to it yet. I think it would be useful for people who are cut off
from internet access on their Jenkins server machine, or for people who
want to just drop in a single file to get all the plugins they want. It's
been on my list of things to do for a while.

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 8:18 PM Thad Guidry <thadgui...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I might have misinterpreted.  Email sucks. :)
>
> I only used the plugin manager and didn't manually drop in plugins.
>
> The only issue then is to help users know which plugins are missing much
> more clearly.  Showing only the classnames versus also providing the actual
> label names from https://plugins.jenkins.io ... or even better, providing
> a one click download and install option for those reported missing in the
> warning box by the login. (forgot what its was called)
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:15 AM Slide <slide.o....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty sure Daniel didn't say to not use the plugin manager. He said
>> that IF you don't use it, then you need to make sure all the dependencies
>> are handled correctly on your own. The plugin manager does that for you,
>> but just dropping hpi files into JENKINS_HOME is not expected to work if
>> you don't provide all the dependencies yourself.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017, 09:01 Thad Guidry <thadgui...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 2:15 AM Daniel Beck <m...@beckweb.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On 17. Aug 2017, at 21:37, Thad Guidry <thadgui...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > My suggestion to the Dev team is to get the full Pipeline Plugin
>>>> suite into the RPM's going forward.  That will alleviate a lot of headache
>>>> I think for most folks doing standard CI/CD since many have already
>>>> converted to Pipeline for that, such as us at Ericsson.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Just going through the setup wizard will install the Pipeline suite.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I did.  It did not completely, which is why they problem surfaced.
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you bypass that, and also don't use the plugin manager in Jenkins in
>>>> Jenkins, but rather populate JENKINS_HOME/plugins manually, you're expected
>>>> to know what you're doing -- mostly parsing the dependencies of plugins,
>>>> and ensuring they're all satisfied.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Dude, SERIOUSLY ?  Make sure to tell other users not to use the plugin
>>> manager that took Jenkins developers about 2 years to build up and that
>>> gets feature tested multiple times per day and prior to release.  Let's
>>> also make sure we make it harder for Jenkins admins and throw out software
>>> solutions to make their lives easier...besides they really enjoy parsing
>>> XML files themselves rather than sipping Mimosa's on the beach.
>>>
>>> Daniel, please respect all the effort that Jenkins open source
>>> developers put into the software.  Your better than that, you work for the
>>> 1 institution that supports Jenkins and has good respect and contributes
>>> directly to features that Jenkins provides.  Cloudbees.
>>>
>>> -Thad
>>> +ThadGuidry <https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry>
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