I actually went so far as to write a "JessManager" class that interfaces JESS with my application.

It is a class that owns and runs a Rete engine when needed.
It provides functions to add and remove Java objects as facts. It listens to the objects propertyChanges to be notified of changes. It has a separate thread that runs the Rete engine as necessary. The thread usually sleeps but is notified as soon as a fact was changed. Why not just call runUntilHalt()? Because this way, I can add flags telling whether a run is in progress and a monitor to wait for the run to stop. With the same monitor I can start and end something like a transaction to do changes to my facts while JESS is not running. This way I can add multiple related facts without JESS interfering by firing rules at the same time.
It also has a startup and shutdown procedure.
Unfortunately my JessManager has many dependencies with the rest of the application so that it would require some work to make it standalone and useable it in a different application. For instance, it can only add facts that are subclasses of the "generic data object" class of my application.

But while writing that class, I was wondering if there wasn't or shouldn't be something like that in JESS. The ability to tell JESS: "I am going to do some changes but wait before you start firing" or "please stop firing any new rule until I tell you" or "tell me when you have no more rule to fire" is in my opinion very valuable.

Regards,
Florian Fischer

Shi Paul wrote:
Hi Henrique and others,
Ernest's reply is only good for single thread execution, while I have at least 2 threads running. It's kinda like reproducer/consumer scenario. I have Jess running in its own thread (consumer thread), I have my other threads running as facts-collecting threads (producer thread). So once those facts-collecting threads stop running, I need to stop Jess thread but the problem is when I call Rete.halt() I don't know if it's still busy. I tried Rete.listActivations() before stopping it, it seems doesn't work as well (the test result revealed that). I didn't try Scott's suggestion since I want the solution in the API level instead of adding a new rule in the knowledge base as I think the solution shouldn't be across 2 different domains. Does anybody has othe good suggestions?

Thanks,
Paul


From: "Henrique Lopes Cardoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: JESS: How do I determine Jess engine has finished firing rules
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:43:05 +0000

Why don't you use Rete.run() instead of runUntilHalt() and wait for the method to return?
Read Ernest's reply.

Cheers,

Henrique


Shi Paul wrote:
Hmmm, I wouldn't say it's a nice solution although it might work. I looked through the Rete api, there is a Rete.listActivations, I'm wondering if I could count on that, before calling rete.halt in the main thread, I'd use that API in a while loop and let main thread sleep for a few seconds if that doesn't return 0.

From: "Krasnigor, Scott L (N-AST)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: JESS: How do I determine Jess engine has finished firing rules
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:59:11 -0500



The easiest thing to do is add a rule with a low salience (I use -1000) that will always match and add whatever action on the rhs that you want
to use to signal all rules are done being processed. This rule will
always be added to the end of the agenda, so when it fires, you know
there are no more rules waiting to be fired.



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Shi Paul
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 1:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: JESS: How do I determine Jess engine has finished firing
rules

Hi,
Actually I have created its own thread and then in that thread I call
rete.runUntilHalt. Then I run into this issue just mentioned, can you
give
me some more specifics about the solution as how to determin if the
engine
is not busy and can safely be stopped? I'd imagine that the main thread could just wait on some semaphore the jess thread operates or call into
some
API which does the same thing.

Thanks,
Paul


>From: "Ernest Friedman-Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: JESS: How do I determine Jess engine has finished firing
rules
>Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:19:29 -0500
>
>
>On Feb 9, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Shi Paul wrote:
>
>>Hi there,
>>Is there an API to determine the rule engine has completed its work.
I'd
>>like to call rete.halt() to stop the engine, but I'm  wondering what
if
>>the engine is still firing rules when I call  that. Can anybody shed
some
>>lights on it?
>>
>
>Jess doesn't create any threads on its own. If you call rete.run(),
then
>run() returns when, and only when, there are no more rules to fire. If
you
>have multiple threads, then you can set up your own  notification
scheme
>based on that.
>
>
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>Ernest Friedman-Hill
>Advanced Software Research          Phone: (925) 294-2154
>Sandia National Labs                FAX:   (925) 294-2234
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