El viernes, 25 juli, 2003, a las 22:04 Europe/Madrid, David Sean Taylor escribi�:
On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 06:22 AM, St�phane Croisier wrote:
Hi Scott,
Do you plan to open the private Jetspeed-2-dev list or to merge it with this mailing list in the same time that the new CVS will be created?
No
Do you plan to put some public archive of the old threads of your Jetspeed2 mailing list in order to understand what was already discussed.
No, that was discussed under NDA
Now that the JSR168 is public, this may help Jetspeed becomes more transparent... It looks like that there are today the ones that know and that speak in private and the others that are trying to guess what is happening (even if they are also JCP member and were under the same NDA before today)... Not very cool for an open source project :-((
Well from my perspective you are being unfair.
I agree. If other JCP members would have been Jetspeed commiters, they would have been invited also.
We could not discuss the details of the Portlet API up until recently.
I am a member of the Portlet API representing Apache.
I do not represent a company, Im not paid to participate, yet I try to represent the best interests of the Jetspeed community.
The expert group could not allow me to share the details of JSR 168 with my team on our public list.
So I proposed to the group that I would share the information with the Jetspeed developers, much like they share information with their corporate developers.
This was agreed upon, and the jetspeed2 mailing list was created.
The other choice would have been to do nothing at all, and wait until public release for making any discussions.
I don't like the closed nature of it, but this is the way that the JCP currently works.
If you don't like it, I suggest you get involved in the Java standards process and work towards changing it.
No one of the team liked the situation. I think having a collective (though restricted) participation in the discussion was better than to further wait until the spec was released. Notice that all committers (i.e., the people with deepest involvement in the project) were invited.
I agree that it is far from an ideal situation. But now everybody has an opportunity to discuss it, disagree with it and make proposals or send patches. ;-)
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