De : David Sean Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
> Apache: portals.apache.org
> Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the
> concept.
> Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
> if everyone stands behind this new TLP.
>

I'm +1 on the idea in general by I have some questions on specific goals of
such a project. See below.

>
> Goals of portals.apache.org:
>
> 1. To promote the use of portlet applications. We view portlets as an
> important technology in the growing portal and web application
> environments.  We intend to build freely available portlet
> applications, portal servers, and portlet containers in order to
> promote the use of this technology.

I think that for this goal to have a global meaning you need to define
what you call portlet and portlet applications.
Integrating a definition similar to the the one used by JSR168 like
"portlets are pluggable user-interface components used by portals to provide
a presentation and interaction layer to Information Systems" would help
better define the intent to non-portal aware people

> 2. To encourage developers from all Apache portal projects to work
> together and share common code

Big question here, what about PHP ? It's part of Apache and is also a very
popular choice for building portals. WSRP could definitely be used as a
bridge
between the Java and PHP world which would be a very good thing IMO.
Also consider Perl, etc...

> 3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks
> at portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet
> Applications will be managed as sub-projects.
>      Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application
> development while cleanly separating the development of
> portals such as
> Jetspeed from applications code.
> 4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML
> standards and
> reference implementations under the ASF license at portals.apache.org
>

I think that limiting the scope of portals.apache.org to Java and XML is too
restrictive. Although I admit that the communities mostly fall along
technology
lines right now, Portals address application integration issues within a
company
and should do their best to easily integrate many technologies. I think that

a common ground for all portal-related issues for any technology currently
represented in the ASF would be a very good move.

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Rapha�l Luta - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jakarta Jetspeed - Enterprise Portal in Java
http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/

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