On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, at 01:18 AM, Luta, Raphael (VUN) wrote:



De : David Sean Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at Apache: portals.apache.org Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the concept. Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see if everyone stands behind this new TLP.


I'm +1 on the idea in general by I have some questions on specific goals of
such a project. See below.



Goals of portals.apache.org:


1. To promote the use of portlet applications. We view portlets as an
important technology in the growing portal and web application
environments.  We intend to build freely available portlet
applications, portal servers, and portlet containers in order to
promote the use of this technology.

I think that for this goal to have a global meaning you need to define
what you call portlet and portlet applications.
Integrating a definition similar to the the one used by JSR168 like
"portlets are pluggable user-interface components used by portals to provide
a presentation and interaction layer to Information Systems" would help
better define the intent to non-portal aware people


Yes. Definitions will be included in the upcoming project charter.

2. To encourage developers from all Apache portal projects to work
together and share common code

Big question here, what about PHP ? It's part of Apache and is also a very
popular choice for building portals. WSRP could definitely be used as a
bridge
between the Java and PHP world which would be a very good thing IMO.
Also consider Perl, etc...


Or Python or Ruby or Groovy portlets. Absolutely.
Thanks for pointing that out.

3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks
at portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet
Applications will be managed as sub-projects.
     Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application
development while cleanly separating the development of
portals such as
Jetspeed from applications code.
4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML
standards and
reference implementations under the ASF license at portals.apache.org


I think that limiting the scope of portals.apache.org to Java and XML is too
restrictive. Although I admit that the communities mostly fall along
technology
lines right now, Portals address application integration issues within a
company
and should do their best to easily integrate many technologies. I think that


a common ground for all portal-related issues for any technology currently
represented in the ASF would be a very good move.


Excellent points Raphael. I will add your input to the project charter and send it back to the list soon

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David Sean Taylor
Bluesunrise Software
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