On Jul 21, 2007, at 9:45 AM, Elliot Metsger wrote:




Ate Douma wrote:

- Jetspeed "light" (no need for database persistence and much simplified
page/site management)


I think jetspeed (of) light is a good idea. I don't have many thoughts but
I would like to offer some datapoints.

1. The 1.1.4 (release candidate, please vote) with a bundled Tomcat starts
in 3.9 ms on my laptop (Macbook Pro 2.33 MHz Intel Core 2 Duo).

3.9 ms, awesome dude!!! You guys rock!!!

I just tested Pluto 1.1.3 on my Macbook Pro 2.33 Mhz Intel Core 2 Duo, and it started up in about 3 or 4 seconds Some serious improvements in 1.1.4, you shaved Tomcat startup down to almost nothing!

With Jetspeed basic build (only j2-admin webapp) it starts in about 8 seconds on the same machine I guess adding webapps, depending on the size and number of classes, will be a constant for all portals as they still all need to go through the Java class loader and pay the same price


2. The following statement (obviously) is anecdotal: Everyone I know uses Pluto Portal to develop portlets. There is certainly some non-zero usage of
Pluto Portal as a "real" portal (based on pluto list traffic), but
absolutely every person that I know who develops JSR 168 portlets is using
the Pluto Portal as their development environment.  After they have
developed their portlet, they drop it into whatever their enterprise portal
is.

Cool, nice of you to say that.
We use the Pluto container for portal development as well, embedded in Jetspeed.

So if Pluto Portal becomes Jetspeed Light (however that happens) my concern
is that it remains as easy to use (this area can definitely use some
improvment), fast, and lightweight as possible for portlet developers.


Yes, that is my goal as well. Look forward to working with you




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