hello, Joe wrote:
your statements sound like you're making some restrictive assumptions about portal systems and their usefullness: specifically you seem to think that there is only value for large organisations.It looks like they will implement the API as it is on their wishlist.(http://www.jahia.org/jahia/Jahia/pid/196)I have set up Jahia and it does seem superior to Jetspeed. It has, among other things and integrated cms. It does carry that hefty price tag though. I still think it is disputable however, the effectiveness and value of portal technology. The companies that are large enough to get any value out of a portal are large enough to pay for Oracle, Plumtree, Weblogic etc etc. I personally see no benefit for smaller organisations. Can you counter this argument?
i think it's one thing to talk about portal technology and what can be done with it and another which actual content companies currently manage/offer through portals. IMO there are a lot more use cases for portals than the well-known MY-somthing or dump intranets.
also your argument might be reversed: maybe the benefit for smaller companies is not easily discovered cause smaller companies simply cannot affort the cost of buying a commercial license like Oracle, Weblogic, IBM, whatever. additionally they often do not have the budget to develop such functionality with inhouse resources. Jetspeed might change this cause it offers a lot of functionality out of the box and thereby reduces development cost.
from a broader perspective portals can also be seen as a browser based desktop, which allows flexible assembly of apps and information. especially with the arrival of web-services, portals provide a nice way of integrating different functional modules tailored for specific user-groups. to sum up, portals are not only a way of showing different web-content in nice boxes; they might well serve as EAI platforms. - maybe their time hasn't even begun...
to give an example of a beneficial use case:
we're currently building a very small portal with Jetspeed which serves a small business network of individual companies as shared information platform and is planned to expand into the internet: many benefits are gained through this: lively web-presence with news-feeds and tools; customer support through specialized accounts; integration of web-applications for sharing contacts, project-tracking, skill profiles etc.; reduces effort needed to keep web-presence up-to-date.
Regards,
Joern
It seems to me that Jetspeed is only in use in 1 or 2 production environments. Is my perception true? Regards, Beri --- Glen Carl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Joe,
I think if you look deeper into the Jetspeed
Community, you will see an emerging portal technology that is quite useful to
many industries. There is definitely alot of new development. During
the past 6 months, I have been very pleased with the progress of
Jetspeed and the growth of its community.
In my opinion, Jahia looks like another risky
business model, compared to Apache Software License. Jahia looks like it has
some components of the Lutris Technologies (Enhydra) business model
which did not work out. Jahia seems to still have a small partner list, it
will be interesting to see if Jahia can expand its partner list and
generate sustaining revenue.
Is Jahia going to try to conform to JSR 168
standards?
Glen
Joe wrote:
Hi, Is Jetspeed still being developed? It seems that anewrelease has just come out (1.4b2??) but is the development still continuing? The portal thingseemsto have died off as everyone has determined thattheyare not of much use. Is the standard Java Portlet API that is talkedabouta JCP standard or an Apache standard? And a big question... I have reviewed both Jahia (www.jahia.org) and Jetspeed. How does Jetspeedstackup against Jahia? Jahia carries a minimum price tagofUS$5000, can you even compare Jetspeed to Jahia? Regards, Beri
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