Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
>
> Sounds like you're doing a lot of work duplicating the J2EE application
> structure?
Most backend infrastructure is similar to each other.
> This is where JetSpeed / Turbine have problems IMHO, why add your own login
> system when J2EE has a comprehensive login system? Caching is handled by the
> J2EE server usually?
J2EE isn't really a product. Nor is J2EE a server. The only Server's
within J2EE that do caching are EJB and Jakarta. However it is a
different kind of caching. There is no code duplication. We are not
duplicating code within JetSpeed. The cache within JetSpeed is the same
cache within Cocoon.
- A lot of people will never use EJB. It is very bulky and there is no
*solid* OSS reference.
- Database authentication is very necessary for web applications. There
is something to be said of keeping things thin. Truth be know there are
no commercial *large* scale user authentication systems. No Portal
sites like Amazon uses the services of JNDI LDAP (unless the LDAP is
merely a transport representing a *real* database) to do
authentication.
At my previous company I had to develop a authentication system for
probably 10s of millions of people. DB authentication is the only way
to go.
Also, I have not seen a real implementation of JAAS yet? Anyone have
any decent URLs?
Kevin
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin A. Burton
> > Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2000 12:56
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Portlications???? and JetSpeed Plugin architecture?
> >
> >
> > So I have been doing some thinking lately about the best way to
> > integrate 3rd party and other Web Applications with JetSpeed.
> >
> > Specifically so that people who want to develop Intranet applications
> > and take advantage of JetSpeed's features (Caching, Portlets, Turbine
> > authentication and framework, etc) can do so in an easy manner.
> >
> > So what I have came up with is a Portlication. This would be similar to
> > the Applet/Application scenario (Portlet/Portlication)
> >
> > - defined with Portlet Markup Language as a portlet except that <portlet
> > application="true"> triggers that this is a "Portlication"
> >
> > - There would be a "Web Applications" Portlet that would be subscribed
> > to you by default that you can choose your Portlication. An Example
> > Portlication would be Messaging or a full functioning Calendar.
> >
> > - Would be written as a Portlet so it gets all the features of a Portlet
> > (caching, etc)
> >
> > - Would *only* run with 100% width.
> >
> > - Would take advantage of the standard logon/logoff of JetSpeed and have
> > the standard navigation of JetSpeed so you can have seamless integration
> > with the rest of the product.
> >
> > Thoughts? The cool thing here is that code that want's to be
> > contributed to JetSpeed (Mail:XSP) could be done very easy with as a
> > Portlication. The other cool thing is that since it is essentially a
> > Plugin that we can have asynchronous development where someone would
> > just work on their Portlication and not have to worry about JetSpeed
> > internals and then we just ship the portlication as part of the standard
> > JetSpeed dist.
> >
> > Feedback would be good.
> >
> > --
> > Kevin A Burton
> > Senior Software Engineer
> > Kendara Inc
> > http://www.kendara.com
> > Mobile: 408-910-6145
> > Linux - The revolution will NOT be televised
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Kevin A Burton
Senior Software Engineer
Kendara Inc
http://www.kendara.com
Mobile: 408-910-6145
Linux - The revolution will NOT be televised
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