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Santiago Gala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "Diethelm Guallar, Gonzalo" wrote:
> 
> > I attended a short Oracle presentation on their
> > Portal product, which looks a lot like Jetspeed
> > with bunches of integration to their RDBMS. They
> > talked a lot about their "portlet" concept, and
> > I could verify it is basically the same idea as
> > Jetspeed portlets. What I am looking for is:
> >
> > * Anybody knows whether Jetspeed's idea of portlets
> >   borrowed from Oracle's, or the other way around,
> >   or none of the above? Just curious.
> >
> 
> The same for me. I arrived here too late to know about evolution.

I didn't know about Oracle Portlets before I created Jetspeed.  That leaves only
two situations... they borrowed from our idea or just came up with it
independently.  I wouldn't rule out independently because it is somewhat
obvious.  In fact I was kind of shocked to see Oracle Portlets in PCWeek about 6
months after I started Jetspeed :)
> >
> > * Anybody knows of a technical reference to their
> >   portlet architecture?
> >
> 
> If you look at google under "portlet api", you will find javadocs of
> their API.

Epicentric has a similar API.  I talked to their CEO/CTO a while back.  They
were interested in collaborating or at least making our APIs portable but didn't
want to use Jetspeed itself because they believe that relying on Turbine was a
drawback... they just didn't understand the situation IMO.

> >
> > * Anybody has checked whether anything in the
> >   Oracle portlet concept could be generic enough
> >   to become part of Jetspeed?
> >
> 
> What I saw doing what I said before was too tied to the database server
> to be usable in a generic API. (I would have expected that from a closed
> source company. I don't really understand Oracle's position with regards
> to OSS.)
<snip>

They are scared because they don't understand it yet.  Not many people get Zen
philosophy when they are  first exposed to it either :).  I think they believe
they will give away the house if they do OSS. ... of course if they play their
cards right they will make a LOT more money :)

Kevin

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