On that note, Microsoft also has Captchas on their Skype page when installing 
Skype for the first time. I find this annoying, especially when I work with 
others trying to install the program. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: What is the issue with Captchas?


And suppose an online seller like Amazon does not offer an accessible 
alternative to image captcha?  Is Jeff Bezos going to be prosecuted?  Of course 
not.  So major online sellers can simply disregard legal agreements with almost 
total impunity and get away with it because they are essentially weak and 
unenforceable.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: What is the issue with Captchas?

Actually, I've read some legal agreements involving online sellers that address 
the CAPTCHA issue and require an accessible alternative in the event the 
company insists on retaining CAPTCHA. I wish I could go into more detail, but 
the agreements with which I'm familiar are confidential.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 9:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: What is the issue with Captchas?


And the reason this situation exists in the first place is that the blindness 
advocacy groups which are supposed to look out for our best interests have 
shown absolutely no willingness to challenge online sellers who insist on 
confronting their customers, blind and sighted alike, with image captchas whose 
value at thwarting hackers is dubious at best.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: judith bron
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 9:18 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: What is the issue with Captchas?

And the only people excluded from making the statement they're human by 
identifying a captia are the blind.  Sounds like a totally messed up system but 
we're still captive.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Ray [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 8:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: What is the issue with Captchas?

No, it isn't proof enough maybe, but it is one of the stones to barriers.
There is no such thing as 100% safe.
Cindy


-----Original Message-----
From: judith bron [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 7:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: What is the issue with Captchas?

I have been following this thread and still the question I have about captias 
for ages is still not answered.  We have criminal minds who spend their time 
messing up people's lives by hacking their information via their on line 
accounts and stealing their identity.  We have folks who steal people's address 
books and try to extort money from their family and friends.  We are supposed 
to recognize an image so we can prove we're human and not robots.  What can 
someone sitting on the other end of a computer in srilanka know about my status 
as a human being if I can tell him what some captia reads?  If they would 
create the captias so we could read them back character by character problem 
solved, but that isn't proof enough that we're not devious.  Judith

-----Original Message-----
From: Kane Brolin [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 8:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: What is the issue with Captchas?

It will be a while before CAPTCHAs are stopped.  This might happen, once 
compatibility with mobile browsing becomes a universal standard.
But the provider of online info related to my Visa card, for example, requires 
me to verify a CAPTCHA every time I sign in.  Not just to change account 
settings or to do some other specialized or sensitive task--just to log in to 
check my points!

The muddy/hard-to-understand nature of the audio CAPTCHA is the whole point.
They want something that requires subjective, human perception to 
understand--not just a clear voice-print that dictation software could 
translate automatically into text in the way that Grasshopper does with a 
voicemail message.

-Kane


























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