It's not so much not knowing one or the other but rather knowing how to 
distinguish jaws keystrokes from the windows once.

DjAndChaz 
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> On Jan 8, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Carolyn Arnold <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Brian, I think that we need to know Windows strokes, since we are working in 
> a Windows system, but, as blind users, it is imperative for us to know JAWS 
> specific strokes. That is why, for us, there is so much more to learn to get 
> maximum use from our computers. 
> 
> Bye for now,
> 
> Carolyn
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Vogel [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 6:13 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when 
> teaching
> 
> [Edited Message Follows]
> 
> Hello All,
> 
>          What follows is a rather philosophical question but that certainly 
> has practical implications that the cohort will know about a lot more 
> personally than I ever can.  Hence this is the place to ask.
> 
>          When I tutor on using JAWS I do not focus exclusively on JAWS and 
> its keystrokes because JAWS hovers on top of all other Windows programs and 
> assists in using those.  My philosophy is that I want my clients to know as 
> many, if not more, keyboard shortcuts that are universally, or very close to 
> universally, applicable in all Windows programs.  I want them to know that, 
> in almost all cases, ALT+F opens the file menu or equivalent, followed by S 
> saves a file, followed by A does a Save as, etc.
> 
>          One of my clients, with whom I had a marathon 3.25 hour tutoring 
> session yesterday, is relatively new to using Windows Live Mail as well as 
> using PDF XChange viewer to perform OCR on the many image PDFs that still get 
> thrown his way.  As a result, I worked him through certain tasks step-by-step 
> and create instructions in the same format, examples of which will follow.  
> It was only when we were conversing afterward, and he used the phrase JAWS 
> keyboard shortcuts when talking about conventional Windows keyboard

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