I admire people who used the old dos commands in those days.  My 59 year old 
nephew was one such.  Though he is sighted, he did master those older dos 
keyboard commands.  I always regretted not learning to use Jaws for Dos.  My 
rehabilitation counselor was even willing to purchase it for me, and install it 
on my computer.  I perhaps might have even been trained to use Jaws for Dos.  I 
suspect, I might have been able to install it on that first Open book machine.  
With the windows 3.1 operating system on it.  I am sad I refused the offer.  I 
might have been able to extricate myself from quandaries I got myself in to 
then.  Had I been able to boot up the computer using dos.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Moore 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 5:52 AM
  Subject: Re: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity


  Hi Angel,
  I am 49-years-old, and I have been using computers as a blind person since 
the 80’s. Have a great one.


  From: Angel 
  Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 5:45 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity

  Youth has its advantages, I suppose.  Writing such a post  is one such.  I 
was also fortunate to be taught computers, by those who were my contemporaries 
in age.  Many who teach us blind individuals do so with arrogance, and pride.  
Which is why they treat us with condescension.       It causes me to fear a 
return to access technology training.  Considering there might be many who 
might hold the same attitudes as are those you seem to hold regarding those who 
hold diferent opinions from those held by you, and the time constraints forced 
on instructors by funding.    Which is why, one should shop for access 
technology trainers as carefully as one shops for ones computer.  In order to 
find the most desirable fit for the students personality.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Brian Vogel 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 4:56 PM
    Subject: Re: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity

    On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 01:27 pm, Angel <[email protected]> wrote:

      The belief being instructed by totally blind instructors narrows our 
options is a prejudiced point of view.
    Er, no.  But persist in that belief if it makes you feel better.  The sheer 
numbers game means it narrows your options, and incredibly I might add.  That's 
a matter of fact, not opinion.

    Brian, who doesn't suffer these sorts of inane assertions gladly


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