No one has mentioned the role played by computer mags.  I have subscribed to 4 
since 1985, and they’ve been tremendously helpful.  Talk about keeping you in 
the mainstream.  come to think of it, Popular Computing (circa 1985) introduced 
me to my first screen reader.  It helps to know what’s going on in the wider 
tech world, and how it relates to us.

Ted

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 4:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 01:34 pm, Jean Menzies 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I agree with the poster that a more appropriate use of language here would be 
to “select” something, etc. In other words, name the action/result, rather than 
referencing it through sighted jargon.

 Jean,

          At this point I'm convinced that, on both sides [so to speak - this 
isn't a battle, it's an exchange of ideas] there is some talking past each 
other going on.

          I will say this, then I am going to let it go.  I often, probably 
more often than not, say "select" something when that's what I want someone to 
do.  I do, occasionally, slip and say "click on" something when I would 
generally say "select" in the context of tutoring.  It simply happens.  I've 
been a classroom instructor, too, and you just find yourself occasionally (and, 
in that situation, almost exclusively) using the jargon of the majority, and 
when it comes to graphical user interfaces that majority is the sighted and the 
jargon relates to what they (I/we) do.  I am, however, acutely aware of the 
context shift when I'm doing private tutoring and adjust accordingly.

          All I'm saying is that I think it's essential to teach my students 
that should I, or anyone else assisting them, for that matter, say "click on" 
something that this means "select" something.  I'm not doing anyone any favors 
by assiduously avoiding any incursion of the most common computer use 
terminology because my student so happens to be using a screen reader.  I'm 
doing them a disservice if I don't make the connection clear between what they 
will hear far more commonly and what that means practically.

          Now, from just what I've learned here, I'm actually shocked at how 
few people have ever been formally taught about context menus and their 
invocation via the right mouse click, whether one is using an actual mouse or 
alternate input device to generate it.  These menus are things of beauty, and 
high efficiency, because they generally are:

  1.  presented as true menus, which virtually every screen-reader user on this 
forum has claimed they like best.
  2.  present only the things that are possible for the object type you have 
focus on (though there can be stippled out items if their actual use is not 
possible given the confluence of circumstances at that moment).

          And, finally, so that I can have people storming all over me and 
decrying my breathing their air, it's about my making my students maximally 
functional in the computer world, not the JAWS world, as far as I'm concerned.  
That means making sure that they understand concepts that others do one way 
that they will do another, but so that when that concept is named that other 
way they absolutely know what that means functionally to them.  You can't, and 
shouldn't, expect to operate in an assistive technology bubble.

Brian

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