Again, a huge amen!

Ted

From: Jeanette McAllister [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 8:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity

Hello Everyone:
I have been following this thread and trying to decide if I want to chime in 
and here I go… let’s see how it goes.
 As a blind assistive technology teacher I can honestly say I could see the 
computer at one time. I lost my vision suddenly five years ago. That being 
said, I know where Brian is coming from as well as the individuals on this list 
who have no vision. I am totally blind, but I am fortunate in that I know what 
a computer screen looks like. That being said, I have empathy for those who 
have never seen the screen. I emboss braille diagrams of a screen so they know 
what they are looking at.
I have worked with students who want to know what the screen looks like (I am 
able to describe it to them); I also have students who could care less, they 
just want to be able to do their job. I start out by asking my students (and 
having them show me) what they know about the computer and JAWS, Window Eyes, 
or NVDA. I then tailor my lesson plans from what I’ve learned from our 
conversation. Every student is different; they have their own learning style. 
There is no “one size fits all”.
 For those who only want a blind person to teach them… that is great… but 
unfortunately we live in a sighted world. In the workplace you need to be able 
to show a sighted individual what you are “seeing”.  My teacher was sighted, 
and because I was newly blind at that time in my life it made sense.
As someone who is totally blind, I agree to certain extent about turning the 
monitor off so a sighted individual knows how it feels. I don’t know Brian 
personally, but I’ve read his posts, and I have learned a lot. Don’t judge 
based on whether a teacher is blind or sighted. Let their work speak for them.

I probably ruffled some feathers, and sorry if I did, but we’re all here for 
the same reason. To help others learn.

Jeanette McAllister  PhD
President / CEO
Assistive Technology Tutor

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From: Robin Frost [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 7:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity

Hi,
I believe she’s still found at
www.blindtraining.com<http://www.blindtraining.com>
Robin


From: Angel<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 6:39 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity

Reading this thread caused me to look up Kathy Anne Murtha's courses on the 
internet.  I was unable to find them.  Has she discontinued teaching on the 
internet?  She also sold a course for access technology trainers.  Who learned 
to use their keyboards alone.  As she was totally blind.  I still have in my 
archives her windows courses for XP.  I learned quite a lot from them.  
Perhaps, if you were to create something similar to her courses for your 
students they might prove as helpful as were her courses for us.
----- Original Message -----
From Brian Vogel<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Improving my teaching approach and/or sensitivity

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 02:04 pm, Maria Campbell 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I don't mind hearing sighted jargon as long as it is translated into something 
I can understand on the keyboard.

This actually brings up an interesting sub-question.  Other than when actually 
instructing on what keystrokes are necessary to accomplish a given action, and 
during practice to master that action, when I also mention the action name 
and/or jargon that goes with it, I do not generally ever mention the keystrokes 
in the future.  I presume that once someone has mastered "select" in the 
context of a file or files or in the context of a word through a text block 
that I not only don't, but shouldn't, be mentioning the keystrokes again.  I 
simply say "select" and the appropriate whatever comes after for the context in 
question.  I presume that the necessary nuts-and-bolts are already understood 
and should be used as the basis for building upon more complex tasks.

Is there any reason to keep reiterating the keystrokes once a given action 
appears to have been mastered rather than just using the action name itself?

Brian
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