On 2/15/16, Gudrun Brunot <[email protected]> wrote:
> Brian, I meant to reply to this very nice post of yours. Yes, collaboration
> would be great, but I haven't quite found the ideal constellation yet. My
> partner, Rob, is very helpful, has a great eye for graphical aspects.
> Unfortunately, he gets very upset with "the system not working right," That
> is, when there is no feedback with JAWS in some situations, that Adobe hangs
> when I'm opening a huge file from someone, etc. If I can give him very
> specific situations, like "I'm having to fill in a forms for a translation
> agency that wants me to possibly work for them, but I can't fill out the
> subject areas I'm supposed to check off," stuff like that, he's fine. But if
> it turns into a run-around and wild goose chase with information blackout,
> system hangs, and so forth, he gets really furious, and I hate having him
> get so worked up. I tell him not to let it eat his liver, and he hears me,
> but it doesn't help in the final outcome. It takes what we Swedes call "ice
> in the stomach" to deal with not-so-perfect accessibility.
>
> I hear what you say, nothing equals sight when it comes to speed and
> frustration avoidance when we're up against deadlines. I've had a reader,
> Sandra, for a while, and I saved all those videos to describe, programs with
> tricky installations, hard-to-read manuals, agency online sign-up sheets
> (they want you to work for them, and "will you please click here to fill out
> our application for new translators..." I had a transcription/translation
> project consisting of 86 files, and she and I went through them together to
> make sure all the names corresponded to what the source files were called,
> how long each file was according to my time stamps and actual file lengths,
> etc.... Rob would have gone nuts having to deal with that. She took a lot of
> that frustration off our minds here. These are things that may look so awful
> to the person who hires you. They may actually be pretty negligible as far
> as practical importance, and most of your work may be perfect. Only, those
> little lapses may give the impression of sloppiness and does not at all
> reflect the hours and hours you've actually spent making sure that the stuff
> that's crucial is absolutely perfect. She has now gotten other work, so
> she's no longer available.
>
> Anyway, thanks for those kind words.
>
> I did uninstall Adobe DC and installed Adobe XI. I did try opening that
> file. It opened all right, and Adobe starting going through the typical
> recognition process. So, thinking I could do some other things while that
> was happening,, I alt-tabbed away, and, ooops, system hang. I tried closing
> programs, but the response was like 20 seconds off. I hit as many alt-f4 as
> I could, went to have dinner and listened to the radio for an hour or two.
> Now, my system is responding as normal. I'll try once more to open that
> file, and leave the recognition process alone, without making any attempts
> at simultaneous activities.
>
> Gudrun
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Vogel [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 2:59 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: textbook scanning for teaching purposes
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 01:39 pm, Gudrun Brunot <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>       information blackout
>
>  I can't, and don't take credit for that particularly succinct and accurate
> turn of phrase.  That goes to Joseph Lee.
>
> Gudrun, not that no one works alone, but most of us don't.  With your
> talents a collaboration might solve that "toe biting" provided the person
> you're working with is on the same metaphorical page as you are about
> deadlines.  There are times when there is no substitute for sight when
> speed, and lack of frustration, are of the essence for a project.  What you
> bring to the table goes beyond mere editing, and getting a decent
> editor/format-checker would, I hope, be possible.  I'd love to be able to do
> that with someone.  A friend of mine is an author, but her work goes through
> "standard editing" as part of the publication process.  Being able to
> produce press-ready material is a real challenge for everyone.
>
> Brian, been there, done that on a limited basis
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
If the quality can be good and the end product be formated so you can
navigate throught it, I'm all for it.  Astime goes by and I find I
can't read things like the numbers of my checks, I sometimes wonder
whether the capabilities of scanners are oversold.  When I converse
with people about their scanning experiences, the ability to navigate
through whatever has been scanned through throws our conversation off.
I often wonder whre we would be if the talking Optacon had been fully
developed.  When I read newspaper or magazine copy, as slow as it was,
I realized that I had to go to the proper column on the next page to
contine the specific story I was reading.  So when I scan with my
openbook, my wish is to read a particular story in its entirety and
skip over the columns I don't want.  This is quite challenging.

Thank you for your post.  I hope you aren't anoyed by my thoughts.

Sincerely

Joseph Sickora

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