Hi Shan,

No, it wasn't, & I forgot to mention that little tidbit!  Thanks for the 
reminder.
Take care.
Mike
The key to happiness is, having a crappy memory.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Shan Noyes
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17


Thanks good catch but was smart web browsing even available in jaws 15 and 
16 I always thought it was only available in just 17

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:09 PM, Mike B. <[email protected]> wrote:


  Another Note:
  The Jaws key + X, keystroke to Toggle between Smart Web Navigation and 
nomal Web Navigation modes, is only available in Jaws 17.

  In Jaws 15 & 16 the, Jaws key + X, keystroke Says the text in the frame 
where the cursor is located.
  Take care.
  Mike
  The key to happiness is, having a crappy memory.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Shan Noyes
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 10:16 AM
  Subject: Re: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17


  Also note that you can turn smart navigation on and off when you're on the 
website with the Joskey plus the letter X

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Feb 26, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Mike B. <[email protected]> wrote:


    Here are notes I've saved from people's experiences with Smart 
Navigation:

    From: Daniel
    Hello,
    You can activate smart navigation in two ways. Through settings center 
where
    you press space to cycle through the options - off, controls, and 
controls
    and tables. The second way is through the jaws startup wizard, where 
these
    options are radio buttons. Smart navigation
     Is used via the arrow keys. In controls, you can arrow across form 
fields
    and you'll get the exact layout of the form. In tables, you navigate 
them
    again with the arrow keys and you can pick a cell in a row, and arrow 
down
    to the corresponding cell on subsequent lines.
    Hope this helps,
    Daniel


    From: Neil Towery
    I changed the subject line to reflect your question concerning how much 
we
     understand.
       Doesn't look like the current smart navigation. Did not notice that
     striking certain keys, such as H, would jump from heading  to heading.
       Looks like we have to do three keystrokes to get the same thing we 
now get
     with one keystroke.
       They are talking about doing the keystrokes twice quickly.
       Where is the option to have it like it is in windows 7?
     Neil

    From: valiant8086
    Hi.
    If you don't use smart navigation, everything behaves as before. Say
    word, Say Character are not quick navigation keys, but those two are the
    ones affected by smart navigation, when smart navigation is in affect,
    these keys require two quick presses to allow you to navigate the text
    character by character or word by word. This is because the arrow keys
    otherwise navigate by element, so one press of right arrow for instance
    might go to a link, or perhaps a button, you won't be able to use arrow
    keys to spell the name of the button for instance if you don't
    understand what it says unless you do sayCharacter keystroke twice
    quickly, thereafter the arrow keys will read the name of the button
    character by character as you'd expect.

    Remember, smart navigation is off by default anyway, and that only
    really affects sayWord and sayCharacter keystrokes. They do recommend
    however that you use semi auto forms mode or manual, because navigation
    quick keys like h won't work very well if you have smart navigation on,
    and fully auto forms mode, because if you arrow onto an edit box it will
    enable forms mode, then if you try to use h it'll just type h in the box
    instead of going to next heading, and you won't be able to get out of
    the box with arrow keys I suspect (not verified) until you hit escape.

    Navigation quick keys really are not affected in any way by smart
    navigation, but the auto forms mode setting remains with the same 3
    options as in jaws 16. If you leave smart navigation off jaws will
    behave exactly as it did in version 16 when it comes to web pages in
    every way to the best of my knowledge.

    Also, yes, smart navigation will be new to JAWS 17.
    Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates

    Take care.
    Mike
    Global warming?  Most likely caused from hot air generated by 
politicians!
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:14 AM
    Subject: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17


    Can any one help me with Smart Navigation Keys?

    What I want is to have a clear definition of the difference between 
normal Navigation Keys and the Smart Navigation Keys.

    Thanks


    Jim




 

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