Hi, You can choose between in-place upgrade or clean install. After selecting "Upgrade my PC", you'll be asked if you'd like to keep your apps and settings or remove them all (first option is in-place upgrade, and the second is clean install). Cheers, Joseph
-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 8:17 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]> Cc: Dave Carlson <[email protected]> Subject: Windows 10 Clean Install vs. In-Place Upgrade Joseph, So in your summary, you say that using the Media Creation Tool will not keep your programs and settings? It would end up being a factory default install of Windows 10 and require installing all my programs from scratch? Does not sound like what I want to do. Or are you saying that I can use the Media Creation Tool to do an In-Place Upgrade and not lose all my programs? Please clarify. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee via Jfw" <[email protected]> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Cc: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 07:46 AM Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10 Hi, There is no command to restart Narrator. Speaking of installing Windows, I'll go through some FAQ's I got from this list in this email: * Compatible JFW release: Please use JAWS 16.0.4350 or later, or if you'd like to wait, please hold off until JAWS 17 comes out (public beta or official build will do). * Clean install versus in-place upgrade: You can perform an in-place upgrade all by yourself with a screen reader running. Your computer will restart several times, and after some restarts, you'll hear silence from your computer. Once this happens, press Windows+ENTER to launch Narrator, and if your sound card is detected, Microsoft David will come up talking. * Multiple clean install options: There are two ways of performing clean install: bootable media or from Media Creation Tool. If using Media Creation tool option, the steps are same as above, except none of your programs and settings will be kept. If doing bootable media installation, then you'll indeed need some sighted assistance for the first few prompts to choose your language, entering your product key (don't have to enter it), choosing a partition and others. Once your computer restarts several times, follow the steps above to finish installing using Narrator (Windows 10 will come in either a DVD or on a flash drive). * Some finds with JAWS 16.0.4350: My brief testing shows the following (at least on my computer): 1. In Start search box, JAWS does not announce search results automatically. 2. JAWS does not announce Action Center notifications, aa variation of Windows 8.x's toast notifications. They are toasts in disguise because you can press Windows+V to move to and interact with them, and press Windows+A to open Action Center. These are basic issues that should have been fixed in the first place, thus (in my opinion) disqualifying JAWS from being compatible with Windows 10 for now (I'm sure FS is working on it). 3. You can use TAB and Shift+TAB to move among links in Microsoft Edge (no virtual cursor, no forms mode, no support for MathML yet). There were tweets floating around which criticized FS for not supporting Edge yet, but that's expected (the biggest nightmare for screen reader vendors is whenever Microsoft comes out with a new version of Windows; Windows 8.x users tasted this, and it'll happen more frequently now that Microsoft will be updating Windows constantly to add new features which may break accessibility). For resident geeks here: * In order to let your app support Windows 10, you need to modify app manifest in your application, which is what JAWS 16.0.4350 could have done. * UIA (User Interface Automation) is more prominent now, with universal apps using UIA. * Microsoft Edge is filled with UIA objects, thus you need to know how UIA works (at least a high-level overview) when scripting for Windows 10 apps and for supporting Edge. If you'd like to hear Windows 10 in action, there are podcasts devoted to this (including mine). I talked about Windows 10 (although from another screen reader's perspective) on Tek Talk for August 3rd, which can be found at www.accessibleworld.org. Cheers, Joseph P.S. I believe we have some Windows Insiders who uses JAWS, so you can ask them also. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 7:14 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]> Cc: Rob <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10 Can you restart Narrator with windows+Enter? On 8/6/2015 9:04 PM, Jim Portillo via Jfw wrote: > I just tried it a while ago. Of course, something went wrong when trying to activate narrator. Looks like it installed, but it is either stuck or something. Now of course I have no idea what's going on on the screen. > > Sent from my iPhone 6! > >> On Aug 6, 2015, at 6:56 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Joseph and Rob, >> >> Thank you for describing the accessibility of the upgrade process. I >> just completed it, and both JAWS and Windows 10 are working well. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob via >> Jfw >> Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 6:40 PM >> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]> >> Cc: Rob <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10 >> >> Hi, >> I just want to remind you that Narrator on Windows 10 is started and >> stopped by pressing windows key and enter. >> after starting the upgrade, I believe the PC restarted twice, after >> that I waited about 20 minutes and pressed windows+Enter and Narrator >> helped me finish the setup. >> At one point, Narrator would not read the screen, so I quit and >> restarted it with windows+Enter. >> dont forget to make a backup before upgrading. >> >> >>> On 8/6/2015 4:56 PM, Jim Portillo via Jfw wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I know there's been much discussion of various aspects related to >>> this >> topic. However, I'd like to know if anyone here has successfully >> installed or upgraded to Windows 10 independently. >>> Did you use JAWS 16 or Narrator or both? I'm ready to install this >>> but >> don't know that I'll have a sighted person around to help, so want to >> make sure I can do this with one or two screen readers. >>> Any tips will be helpful. >>> I've got my machine set and ready to go. >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone 6! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Jfw mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
