On Friday 30 Jul 2004 19:44, ???e??? ?a???t?a??? wrote:
> Tim, i think you're missing the whole point here. If what you need is a
> strongly typed solution, where your clients use the wsdl to compile stubs
> and with non-Java clients, why attemp to use a messaging-oriented
> technology ?

Er, have I wandered onto the wrong list by mistake? :)  I'm trying to web 
service enable an application I have.  Axis is slow.  jibx-soap is fast.  I 
was looking into using jibx-soap because it's fast.  Are you suggesting that 
I should be looking at a different technology for a solution?

> The weak-typing is actually the benefit of messaging ... you can add
> services on the server-side without breaking your interface to the outside
> world. If I were you, I'd design (devise) avery specific message protocol &
> give my clients a few DTDs that describe the message scheme.

The existing solution that this is replacing is SOAP like XML over TCP/IP.  I 
wrote it about five years ago from the SOAP spec before proper soap toolkits 
were invented.

This interface is hard to use, as it is purely text based.  You have to build 
up a string of XML and squirt it down the wire to call the interface.  Our 
customer base (this is a vertical market finance app) is asking for web 
services, so they can generate client stubs to make the interface easy to 
call, to abstract out the messaging aspect of the comms.  

> you start developing with this .. message-orientation frame of mind, I bet
> you'll never want to go back to RPC-like web services.

I think I'm trying to move from something similar to what you're suggesting to 
proper web services.

> Well ,,, that didn't help, but I certainly hope it was an interesting read
> ;]

I always up for my assumptions to be challenged!

Tim.


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