Hi Alan,

On 05/19/2017 01:05 PM, Alan Bateman wrote:
On 19/05/2017 10:48, Volker Simonis wrote:

:

 From my understanding, at run-time, "open" implicates "exports" (i.e.
if a module M1 opens a package P for some other module M2 it also,
implicitly exports P to M2). The  "big kill switch" in both, its old
and in the newly proposed form, usually only refers to "enabling
reflective access" but doesn't explicitly mentions that it will also,
implicitly export the respective packages. Also, the usage of the
"kill switch" only produces warnings for reflective accesses which are
enabled by the option itself (and not at the same time, explicitly
allowed by --add-opens directives). But it doesn't warn about the
simple, non-reflective accesses to packages which are implicitly
exported by the kill switch as well.
You are correct. If the package is opened at run-time:

1. All public members of public types in the package are accessible. This includes both static and reflective access.

2. All members of all types in the package can be reflected on when using setAccessible or privateLookupIn.

The reason you don't get warnings with the static references is because access checking in the VM is very low level and we deliberately decided to avoid the invasive changes needs to report warnings here. The latest proposal does not change this, it's just too late in JDK 9 to take on this surgery.

-Alan

Ok, I can understand that such interpretation of "opens" is necessary for JDK 8 compatibility story. If something is "open" then it behaves exactly like in JDK 8 or before (apart from compilation) regardless of packages being exported or not. But from consistency perspective, explicit "exports" should be required just like "public" modifiers are required to access members without .setAccessible(true) or without .privateLookupIn().

This would not hinder the ability for frameworks to access members. It would just require them to call .setAccessible(true)/.privateLookupIn() in more places, but would be safer too as "suppressAccessChecks" permission would be required for non-exported package access like it is required for "private" members.

I'm sorry I haven't noticed this before. It is probably to late to change this now. Was this deliberate choice (to promote compatibility with existing code)?

Regards, Peter

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