jolshan commented on code in PR #17454: URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17454#discussion_r1795963676
########## docs/design.html: ########## @@ -290,24 +290,56 @@ <h3 class="anchor-heading"><a id="semantics" class="anchor-link"></a><a href="#s messages have a primary key and so the updates are idempotent (receiving the same message twice just overwrites a record with another copy of itself). </ol> <p> - So what about exactly once semantics (i.e. the thing you actually want)? When consuming from a Kafka topic and producing to another topic (as in a <a href="https://kafka.apache.org/documentation/streams">Kafka Streams</a> - application), we can leverage the new transactional producer capabilities in 0.11.0.0 that were mentioned above. The consumer's position is stored as a message in a topic, so we can write the offset to Kafka in the - same transaction as the output topics receiving the processed data. If the transaction is aborted, the consumer's position will revert to its old value and the produced data on the output topics will not be visible - to other consumers, depending on their "isolation level." In the default "read_uncommitted" isolation level, all messages are visible to consumers even if they were part of an aborted transaction, - but in "read_committed," the consumer will only return messages from transactions which were committed (and any messages which were not part of a transaction). + So what about exactly-once semantics? When consuming from a Kafka topic and producing to another topic (as in a <a href="https://kafka.apache.org/documentation/streams">Kafka Streams</a> application), we can + leverage the new transactional producer capabilities in 0.11.0.0 that were mentioned above. The consumer's position is stored as a message in an internal topic, so we can write the offset to Kafka in the + same transaction as the output topics receiving the processed data. If the transaction is aborted, the consumer's stored position will revert to its old value and the produced data on the output topics will not Review Comment: Did we want to change this line because it is misleading -- the position on the consumer doesn't revert unless the offsets are fetched again. It is also a little misleading since the offset doesn't really revert in the coordinator -- it is just pending until the transaction is completed (at least as of KIP-447, which may not have been implemented when this was written) -- This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service. To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use the URL above to go to the specific comment. To unsubscribe, e-mail: jira-unsubscr...@kafka.apache.org For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure at: us...@infra.apache.org