ppkarwasz commented on PR #18472:
URL: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/18472#issuecomment-2582978621

   > Additionally, `jackson-dataformat-yaml` can be removed from runtime 
dependency too.
   
   +1
   
   > Maybe `log4j-core` and `log4j-api` can be moved to `compileOnly` and then 
include them into distribution?
   
   Gradle apparently has a feature for that, see [Optional dependencies are not 
optional](https://blog.gradle.org/optional-dependencies). With a snippet like:
   
   ```groovy
   java {
       registerFeature('loggingConfig') {
           usingSourceSet(sourceSets.main)
       }
   }
   ```
   
   it should be possible to:
   
   - declare `log4j-core` as a [optional Maven 
dependency](https://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-optional-and-excludes-dependencies.html)
 with a scope of `runtime`.
   - Gradle users will still be able to make import the transitive dependency 
using:
     ```groovy
     implementation("org.apache.kafka:kafka_2_13") {
       capabilities {
         requireCapability("org.apache.kafka:kafka_2_13-logging-config")
       }
     }
     ```


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