Having a PDF version of the documentation is a good idea. If it's not too difficult, we should probably do that anyway.
As to having the manual on the Wiki, I think there is a danger that unwanted content could creep in (wiki vandalism etc). Although e-mails are generated when pages are updated, there's no effective control of the contents. So long as the user manual is left on the Wiki, and not distributed with JMeter as an ASF product, that probably does not matter. But it does matter for items that are released by the ASF. Sorry, but I'm -1 on moving the manual to the Wiki. S. On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 10:07:26 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > PDF docs will be excelent. Is one file, portable and can be much > easily prited, then HTML. > > Rudolf > > ----- PÅVODNÃ ZPRÃVA ----- > Od: "sebb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Komu: "JMeter Developers List" > <[email protected]>,"Peter Lin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > PÅedmÄt: Re: [Proposal] - shoot for a new release in 2 > Datum: 5.3.2005 - 1:04:07 > > > Question is, how will JMeter help then work? > > > > It's very useful to be able to click ^H while on a test > > element and > > have the relevant section displayed. Is there any easy > > way to do this > > with a PDF file? How would the index markers be > > defined? > > > > By the way, the XML processing includes automatic > > indexing and > > cross-referencing. I suspect most of this would have to > > be done > > manually by the Wiki editors. > > > > I think the potential benefits are much less than the > > costs. And I > > wonder if many users would actually take the trouble to > > update the > > manual on the Wiki. > > > > S. > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 16:55:14 -0500, Peter Lin > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > well I could always use Acrobat to make a PDF of the > > > wiki site. or > > > does that sound a bit much? > > > > > > peter > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 16:26:16 -0500, Michael Stover > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That's a good point. Maybe we could come up with a > > > > documentation > > > > download that does just package up a section of the > > > > wiki. > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 21:14 +0000, sebb wrote: > > > > > If the docs are only on the Wiki, then the > > > > > built-in JMeter help will > > > > > stop working, surely? > > > > > > > > > > I think we need to provide documentation with the > > > > > JMeter download, so > > > > > JMeter can be used on systems that don't have > > > > > Internet access. > > > > > > > > > > If the Wiki documentation can be easily packaged > > > > > up and included in > > > > > JMeter downloads, then perhaps it would be OK, > > > > > but I'm not sure that > > > > > would be easy. Wiki markup is not HTML... > > > > > > > > > > S. > > > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:32:01 -0500, Peter Lin > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I like the idea of letting the users edit the > > > > > > docs, since often it's > > > > > > too much hassle for users to checkout the docs, > > > > > > make a patch, submit > > > > > > patch and then we commit it. > > > > > > > > > > > > peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 15:20:34 -0500, Michael > > > > > > Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 20:10 +0000, sebb > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > OK by me, with one proviso - would it be > > > > > > > > easy to optionally generate > > > > > > > > JMX files in the old format? That should > > > > > > > > make the transition easier > > > > > > > > for some. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I can do that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am intending to create a 2.0.3 release > > > > > > > > soon, as there are quite a > > > > > > > > few useful fixes in 2.0. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > S. > > > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 11:47:03 -0500, Peter > > > > > > > > Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'll try to move the webservice related > > > > > > > > > docs on wiki this weekend > > > > > > > > > also. along with general clean up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 11:08:02 -0500, Mike > > > > > > > > > Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I plan on devoting some of my time in > > > > > > > > > > the next 2 weeks to > > > > > > > > > > 1. cleaning out obsolete documentation > > > > > > > > > > in the wiki > > > > > > > > > > 2. Moving the User Manual from the web > > > > > > > > > > site to the wiki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure about this at all - why would that > > > > > > > > help? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because we have a lot of trouble keeping the > > > > > > > docs up-to-date, and a lot > > > > > > > of useful user information is split between > > > > > > > the user-manual and the wiki > > > > > > > area. If we put it all on the wiki, users > > > > > > > can update the documenation > > > > > > > for us (ie, users often learn things about > > > > > > > the components I don't even > > > > > > > know/realize - no reason they can't put it in > > > > > > > the documentation directly > > > > > > > if it's on the wiki). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Plus, updating the docs becomes easier - just > > > > > > > change the wiki, forget > > > > > > > about writing it in xml then transforming it > > > > > > > to html then uploading to > > > > > > > apache... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Putting finishing touches on the > > > > > > > > > > code in CVS HEAD > > > > > > > > > > 4. 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