BTW, given all this wrangling over compatibility with jvm versions, could we nix all the jvm options currently in the jmeter/jmeter.bat startup scripts? I always have to edit that file just to run, and it seems silly to be trying to tweak the options to such a degree for everyone. I would think a default memory setting and the "-server" options would be sufficient.
-Mike On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 18:26 +0100, sebb wrote: > I'm happier with that. > It may turn out that Java 1.5 is only needed for building. > E.g. Tomcat 5.5.x is intended for running on Java 1.5/5.0, but will > run on earlier versions by downloading an extra package. > > == > > I think it would be useful to find out users' views on JRE versions, > so I'll post a message to the mailing lists asking what OSes/JVMs > people currently use - and could use. > > S. > On 16/08/05, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > that's what I was thinking. > > > > I'm good that idea. It would allow jmeter to move forward and do > > interesting fun stuff. > > > > peter > > > > > > On 8/16/05, Michael Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So, just to clarify, the suggestion here is make HEAD use jdk1.5 with an > > > eventual JMeter 3.0 release. Leave the 2.1 branch to be jdk1.4 > > > compatible and make continuing 2.x releases from there. > > > > > > I'm willing to do, say, weekly merges from 2.1 to HEAD to support this. > > > Most of my new work would go in HEAD. I would expect Sebb would mostly > > > work in 2.1, and Peter would probably split his time. Eventually, we'd > > > have two concurrent JMeter versions - 3.x and 2.x. > > > > > > How do people feel about that? > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 09:16 -0400, Peter Lin wrote: > > > > + > > > > > > > > it would be good to know. Plus, I'm willing to maintain the 2.x line > > > > and potential jdk5 version which maybe version 3 or 4. > > > > > > > > other projects have multiple versions like axis, tomcat, jstl, etc. > > > > > > > > peter > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/16/05, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > HP have just released a beta version of JDK 1.5 for OpenVMS. It is > > > > > likely to be some months before a full version is released. There is > > > > > as yet not even a beta for Tru 64 Unix nor for OpenVMS I64 (Itanium). > > > > > > > > > > However, it may not just be those OSes that have yet to get a 1.5 JVM. > > > > > > > > > > I think we need to find out how many people would be affected by this > > > > > proposal. > > > > > > > > > > S. > > > > > On 16/08/05, Michael Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 22:28 +0100, sebb wrote: > > > > > > > Not sure what Tomcat has to do with it. And the problem is that > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > OSes don't yet have a 1.5 JVM. > > > > > > > > > > > > Right - that's a completely different issue than having to install > > > > > > them > > > > > > on "servers" remotely or corporations that won't allow developers to > > > > > > install 1.5 on their machines (wtf?). I really don't intend to hold > > > > > > back for the sake of irrational fears about just installing 1.5 on a > > > > > > random machine. > > > > > > > > > > > > So anyway, back to my question - any idea when vms will get jdk1.5 > > > > > > for > > > > > > it? The next big release of JMeter won't be for a long time, if > > > > > > history > > > > > > is any indication of the future. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 1.5 is required to build JMeter, that's OK, but it's not OK > > > > > > > for us > > > > > > > if JMeter requires 1.5 in order to run. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > S. > > > > > > > On 15/08/05, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > one potential way around that would be to include just the JRE > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > tomcat. What do others think about that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand the desire to stick to 1.4.2 for backward > > > > > > > > compatability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/15/05, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Our desktops are located far away (physically and > > > > > > > > > network-wise) from > > > > > > > > > the servers we want to test, so the network overhead would be > > > > > > > > > too > > > > > > > > > great to use them to drive our server testing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So although JMeter is not a server app, we actually use it on > > > > > > > > > a server > > > > > > > > > (in non-GUI mode). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > S. > > > > > > > > > On 15/08/05, Michael Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > JMeter is not a server app, however. It's a client app and > > > > > > > > > > users can > > > > > > > > > > install jdk1.5 on their client machines without affecting > > > > > > > > > > the servers > > > > > > > > > > being tested. After all, JMeter is not about testing JAVA > > > > > > > > > > apps, it's > > > > > > > > > > about testing servers that may not even be running Java > > > > > > > > > > code or have any > > > > > > > > > > JVM installed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 22:07 +0200, Martijn Blankestijn > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I think it will take a long time before all userss will > > > > > > > > > > > upgrade to Java > > > > > > > > > > > 5, therefore I think that the minimum should be at least > > > > > > > > > > > 1.4 for the > > > > > > > > > > > next release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martijn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael Stover wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we assume use of jdk1.5+ for JMeter's future > > > > > > > > > > > > release after 2.1? > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have a problem with that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
