On Monday 13 October 2003 21:25, Val�re Swinnen wrote:
>  >> > BTW, I have had further contact with Val�re from the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > project,
>
>  >> > and see has become more to the point on cooperation... she has given
>  >> > a few comments on the current Jmol (v7) which I will send to the list
>  >> > soon, and she told me that a possible way of cooperation would be
>  >> > that their GUI team would join in on the new renderer engine... She
>  >> > did ask me
>  >> > to query you about "how you would feel about working in a team"...
>  >
>  > I would love to have some help! There is much more work than I can do.
>  >
>  > At a high level, my request would be that they:
>  > - take the job seriously
>  > - conform to some general coding standards regarding
>  > * indentation style and naming
>  > * efficiency
>  > * dynamic memory allocation
>  > - be open to constructive criticism and code review/peer review
>  >
>  > I will strive to do the same ... particularly the last point
>  >
>  > Please have her get in touch with me when you think it is appropriate.
>
> First I would like to remark that I am a man, Egon!
> Sorry if I gave you a false impression of myself? :-))

Oops... my apologies. I was wondering about it, but in Dutch your name sounds 
feminine... my mistake.

> I am glad you feel that way about a possible co-operation Miguel.
> Your requests (above) are the same as I would suggest if I were in your
> place so I see no problem there.
> The [EMAIL PROTECTED] project is actually more of a science project than
> anything else. I/we expect serious people working on it. As far as I can
> tell at least some of our forum members are university students and
> graduates. Due to the nature of the project I think others (read: less
> educated) people will be discouraged if only by the problems we will be
> facing of which only a minority will be on programming.
> I can not tell you at the moment how many people we will be able to put
> on helping with the 3D engine.
> We are only in the start-up phase at the moment. We are currently
> working on setting up mailing lists for our teams. Only if this is done
> we will accept developers. I am also working on a very crude todo list
> for each team so that people get an idea about the work involved.
>
> In fact I am not 100% sure if we will be using Jmol at all. It is at the
> moment a proposition made by me, and the initiator of the project Robert
> Bradbury is inclined to go along with it. At the moment I am only the
> (humble) acting co-ordinator of the project.

Where is the project based? In USA, Europe?

> I would be grateful Miguel if you could give me more details about this
> new 3D engine you are working on. It would help me defending our
> possible co-operation to the other critical project members.
> Especial points of interest for us are:
> 1. Speed! The, as ever, big Java question. Will the engine be able to
> handle thousands even tens-of-thousands of atoms?

I've opened the three files you send with v8:

file 1 - 2596 atoms - 45ms
file 2 - 6165 atoms - 64ms
file 3 - 8297 atoms - 146ms

I can't explain the non-linearity... moreover, this is with the old engine...

> 2. How far is the development of the new 3D engine?
> 3. A list of capabilities would be helpful, present and possible future
> ones.

A demo can be found in the subdirs of http://jmol.sf.net/demo/

> I would expect that in the beginning the co-operation would be a full
> one until the engine is complete and running bugfree. After that we will
> probably only co-operate on parts that are of mutual interest.

Sure. That sound more than reasonable to me.

Egon

-- 
PhD Molecular Representation in Chemometrics
Laboratory of Analytical Chemistry
http://www-cac.sci.kun.nl/people/egonw.html


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