> unfortunately, SPEWS policy is such that I can not contact > anyone there directly; I need to simply wait until my IP "clears" > their system. whenever that is; they wouldn't even tell me that. > grr. What a disaster!
> if nothing > happens at sourceforge, I can subscribe via my .mac account instead. > it's a backup account, though, which is why I'd prefer the molvisions > route. but whatever works! OK >> What kinds of things are you working on? > lots, actually. you can find almost all of my stuff via my Web site, > <http://www.molvisions.com/>. I work primarily at the interface > between Chime and javascript. I have created a number of user > interfaces built around Chime, for various biochem and cell biology > textbooks. Excellent! I took a look at some of your work on your site ... looks great. I must say, it strikes me that you are working in a tough space: platform differences in JavaScript implementations + differences in Chime plug-in behavior = a difficult job. > in > addition, I just finished a javascript Recorder for Eric Martz's > Protein Explorer; it allows Chime and RasMol scripts to be played in > PE, and saved out for use in other contexts. it will be included in > the next release of PE, which should be coming out soon. Very good. > right now, I am working on a quizzing interface > (<http://www.quizmol.com/>) that will be adaptable to most Chime > interfaces, including PE. it will allow instructors to write > non-linear quizzes accompanied by a Chime interface for exploring > structures. I hope to expand this into a server-based product, so > instructors can create a database of quiz elements for use by their > students via the Web. (PE demands that everything runs locally, so > the current > incarnation is all javascript, but I am designing it with an eye > toward incorporating php and mysql.) Good. > I have also worked on several miscellaneous projects, including > combining physical and computer models to improve undergraduate > curriculum. its all at my site :-) I spent some time on molvisions.com. Outstanding work. > needless to say, I am hugely motivated to find a replacement for > Chime; in many ways, my livelihood depends on it. Well, I am *very* glad to hear that. See below. > I am familiar with Java, but > not enough to actually write code or provide expert assistance (though > I am trying to learn). That's OK ... the Jmol team has Java expertise. . (But, if you *want* to learn some Java then I can carve out some small projects for you to do ... maybe something related to macro/script recording :) > I have a background in science, over ten years, > extensive experience with Chime, RasMol, and all things mol vis, and a > passion for making mol vis accessible to the educational community. This is what I do *not* have ... domain-specific knowledge in the application of scripting in the biochemistry space. I joined the Jmol project with the explicit goal of building a Chime replacement ... but, for all practial purposes, I have never actually *used* either Chime or RasMol ... just read the doc. > hopefully we can sort out the mailing list problem in short order so I > can get up to speed on what jmol users and developers are doing. I am > sure I'll have quite a few questions, as well. ;-) In the meantime you can talk to me directly. I will cc the mailing list on my responses (as I have on this one). For the time being, I will probably be the main person on the list who will be talking to you. The other Jmol developers are primarily focused on other parts of Jmol and other aspects of chemistry. But they are very interested in scripting and in reaching out to Chime users. And, among the Jmol user community, only a couple of users have much RasMol/Chime experience. Chime is mainly used by biochemists. To date, Jmol hasn't been able to meet the needs of biochemists, so we don't yet have any users from that community. >> Did you have a have a chance to take a look at Brian's hemoglobin >> lecture? Also, please take a look at the other demos under >> http://jmol.sf.net/demo >> > I have only browsed your site briefly, using Safari on OS X 10.2.8. > some of it worked "right out of the box", and some of it didn't. Arghh ... As you probably know, none of the browsers on OS X support LiveConnect communication between JavaScript and Java. So there is no way to drive the applet from JavaScript, and there is no way for the applet to launch callbacks. > Brian's demo did not. Well, that is a shame. I thought it would work, with the exception of the text frame at the bottom. But I don't have a Mac and I can't test it. > to be fair, though, I have only spent a few > minutes on it. I will be trying it out more thoroughly in the next > few days, with various browsers and systems, and I will certainly let > you know what I find. Good. I certainly hope that you like what you see. You said that your livelihood depends upon a Chime replacement. After seeing the nature of your work I can certainly understand that. Well, the 'biochemistry' aspect of the Jmol project needs someone with your level of application experience and expertise. You could really help drive things by helping to set priorities and by doing some real stress-testing. You have a suite of web applications that we can use as a testbed to improve our chime2jmol.pl translation tool and confirm compatible script behavior. > thanks for the help, and I look forward to JMol! Please do take a look at http://jmol.sf.net/demo using something other than OS X. And we would appreciate your honest feedback on what you think. 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