Peter wrote:

>>This works fine but there are some things that Jmol does not do that
>>would be very useful for people in crystallography. For example, are
>>there any plans to display thermal ellipsoids?
>
> We mentioned this as one object that could be algorithmically generated as
> an isosurface

I suspect that rendering them as isosurfaces will be rather expensive.

That may not be a problem if you are talking about a small number of
ellipsoids.


> We are working on much of this at present. We have an alpha version of
> cif2cml converted that is able to read CIFs into CML, apply symmetries,
> compute the chemically reasonable fragments, use CDK to generate 2D
> structures and write out the results.

Good. Then Jmol can read the CML output.

>>It would seem that displaying thermal ellipsoids should be relatively
>>easy- the information is already in the file- have a look at
>>
>>         http://www.chem.gla.ac.uk/~louis/software/ortep3/
>>
>>for an example.
>
> It is not quite trivial. The ellipsoids are defined wrt crystal axes and
> you also have to be able to apply symmetry elements to symmetry related
> ellipsoids.  However if you are prepared to hack though the matrix algebra
> (which is standard in many books) you can deduce the semiaxes of the
> ellipsoids. The Jmol has to be able to draw an ellipsoid. This should be
> easier than ORTEP because the hidden line algorithm is not required.

I would probably be willing to provide an ellipsoid rendering primitive if
someone else wanted to take the lead on this.

>>It might also be possible to display the symmetry elements- perhaps by
>>reading the symmetry information from the file, constructing the "extra"
>>atoms and maybe making them into a special selection that can be toggled
>>on/off?
>
> Again not trivial, but possible.

At this point I am not that interested in undertaking new features unless
they are trivial :-)


Miguel



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