Bob wrote:

> I'd like to switch the following app to jmol. Would you please take a
> look at it and tell me if there is anything it can do with Chime that
> can't be done with jmol?
>
> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr/jmol/pi/

Unfortunatly, I do not normally have access to a system that has Chime
installed.

> Note that this was written in the era when both IE and Netscape had
> dropped "live connect" so it uses a hidden frame with code such as
>
> <embed type=application/x-spt
>  hidden=true width=10 height=10 button=push
>  target=C0_42203168433687915
>  script="select *;color group" immediate=1>
>
> to do all the driving.
>
> Q: Is there anything like this in jmol that avoids Live Connect?

Yes, at Tim Driscoll's request we implemented a JmolAppletControl of type
'immediate' that will send the script as soon as it is loaded. This can be
put into hidden frame (or perhaps loaded into a hidden div? ... don't
know)

> Q: What's the history/future of Live Connect?

I think that LiveConnect is here to stay

IE supports it on Win32 (not on Mac).

Mozilla supports it on Linux & Win32 (I don't think on Mac yet)

Safari on Panther supports it.

Konqueror on Linux supports it.

There are some bugs, but it seems pretty stable.


Therefore, I suggest that you avoid using the 'immediate' hack and go
ahead and use LiveConnect to send script commands directly to the
JmolApplet.

Similarly, I recommend that you use HTML buttons tied to JavaScript rather
than JmolAppletControls (the equivalent of the Chime pushbuttons).

> Of course, if this app doesn't work on your setup, please let me know
> that, too!

I will see if I can find a machine where I can run it.


Miguel



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