Miguel Howard wrote:

that is not the case with cartoons. with cartoons, the alpha carbon
atoms are in the center of the residue. so the residue extends from one
side of the alpha carbon to the other side.




in RasMol, backbone is like you described it but cartoon is like trace
(ribbons, strands) a spline based on C-alpha, may be you should
interpolate the end and start of the residues by simply dividing the
curve between CA n -- CA n+1 and associate this with the cartoon
representation start and end points.



That is exactly what I am doing. Calculating the mid-points between the alpha carbon atoms.




Q: In the case of two fused helixes, in cartoon representation, how do
you describe the segment that runs between the end of one alpha carbon
and the beginning of the next?




until C n its part of helix 1 and from N n+1 it is part of helix 2



That is waht I am doing.




Q: How would you pick/specify a size for this segment of 'rope'?




I would expect that picking would select C-alpha



If I understand you correctly, that is what I am doing ... and that is why it doesn't work. I am not doing a good job of explaining the problem.

Let me try asking the question a different way:

A 'cartoon' representation is an idealized view of the protein.
 a helix is represented by a helix
 a sheet is represented by an arrow
 other residues are represented by a rope

When you have two adjacent helices there are no intervening residues.
Therefore there is no rope.

And the two cylinders/helices do not join because each of them is in an
idealized position.


they should end and start on the same point of the spline, no rope is needed,
regards, Jan


So, we can (and should) put a 'false' rope between adjoining helices.

But, how do I determine the size of that 'false' rope? How does the user
specify the size of that 'false' rope?



Miguel








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