Miguel Howard schrieb:

Jan, what do you think is different about the Windows version of RasMol?

it's a labeling issue (RasWin has a wrong Y axis labeling)



My confusion surrounding this issue is caused by the fact that
RasMol/Chime has the +Y axis pointing downwards. I find this


orientation


unnatural.


me too, therefore I inserted a
rotate z 180
in all my scripts (and there should be an rotate y 180, too), but I would be happy if this would be no longer necessary


Q: In the abstract, independent of any existing applications/scripts


that


may exist, what do people think about this? Do you believe that the +Y
axis should point upwards or downwards?


'In the abstract', I am not too bothered about this. For me, a key part
of visualising 3D structures on 2D screens is manually rotating them
using the mouse. So as long as I can rotate the structure so that +Y
points up, +X points right and +Z points to the viewer I am happy. That
said, it seems reasonable to 'open' molecular displays with +Y pointing
up and +X pointing to the right as this is the familiar convention (for
2D graphs etc).


I agree.


OK




Q: Given that there *are* existing applications and tutorials, what do


you


think we should do about this issue?


I do not have a great deal of experience with these sorts of
RasMol/Chime scripts and tutorials. Given the inconsistencies and
variations in axis display noted above, I am not sure whether script
problems just relate to 'orientation' or to 'handedness'. Can anyone
clarify this?


it is easy for me to alter my script generating programs.


For all practical purposes, I have never written any scripts.


However, here is an example that makes sense to me: I have a protein and I
want to hilite a particular region. To do so I change the color of that
region, then position the molecule so that the region of interes is most
visible.

If Jmol does not have the same initial orientation as Chime/RasMol, then
my rotation commands are going to have to be different (although I am try
to stay away from rotations ...)



I would prefer the default behaviour of Jmol to be as 'straightforward'
as possible. i.e. +X points to right. +Y points up, Z points out to the
user. I feel that script issues only involving 'orientation' should be
easy to deal with by changing the script (or options in Jmol).


I agree.


OK




Script
issues involving handedness, if any exist, should *not* be accommodated
with options in Jmol.



I understand you to say that Jmol should not accomodate left-handed systems.


again, my agreement.
Regards, Jan


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