OK.   Here is my address:

http://www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/jmolaccess/main/


I note that on my own server when I go from location 0 to location 1I observe the problem.


Phil

On Apr 27, 2005, at 10:16 AM, timothy driscoll wrote:

On 2005-04-27 (09:10) Philip Bays wrote:

I have a somewhat different experience, I think.  Let's try to focus
in on some specific sites to compare.   I am using the following:

http://dev.molvisions.com/debugging/jmolcalls_nocallback.html

www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/Stereochemistry/Fischer.htm

http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms/



hi Phil,

I think it is a good idea to focus on specific test sites; in addition, the code should be as simple as possible. that way we won't start discussing if callbacks are interfering, whether document.getElementById or document.applets[] are working, etc.

I have put together a debugging package. it includes six html files. they differ in whether callbacks are active, and from where they call the JmolApplet (same dir, sub dir, and parent dir).

I propose that we copy these files to a few different servers and see how they function on different systems. that way we can control code differences, access differences, and callbacks as variables.

if this is acceptable, I have posted a zip of the package here:

<http://dev.molvisions.com/debugging/jmolaccess/jmolaccess.zip>

if you have a public www server, you can download and unzip the folder, then copy it to your server and email me the url to access it. once we have a few set up, I'll send a list of them to the list and ask for feedback from different systems.

I have the package running on my server now:

<http://dev.molvisions.com/debugging/jmolaccess/main/>

(the index page is inside 'main' so I can include a parent dir above main to hold an applet copy.)

what do you think?

regards,

tim
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Timothy Driscoll
molvisions - see, grasp, learn.
<http://www.molvisions.com/>
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I find that if I load any one of the three into a fresh Safari, it
works but the subsequent loads do not.

I am running 10.3.9 with Java 1.42_05_141.4 on two platforms.   On
a third, I have the same but I did not apply the most recent 10.3.9
security and java patches.   It exhibits the same issue.   So it is
not those updates.  On lab machines, we are running 10.3.5 with java
1.4.2_05_141.3.  Those machines do not exhibit this issue; all
pagers load fine sequentially.

On the other hand, Bob looked at  10.3.4 and 10.3.5 machines
yesterday and they had problems, though it was not clear that those
problems were the same as this problem.

I would like to hear from some others, including Tim, Bill, Bob and
I to see if we can tabulate any sort of OS and Java version
patterns. Can we use these three links as tests?

Phil

On Apr 27, 2005, at 8:14 AM, William Reusch wrote:

Tim,

I have just examined the following group of pages, loaded in the
order given. � 1. A page from our server, a Silicon Graphics
platform � 2. Your test page � 3. A page running on my local Mac �
4. A different page from our server, using a different
JmolApplet.jar � 5. Phil's Fischer projection page
(saintmarys.edu/~pbays/Stereochemistry/Fischer.htm) � 6. Bob's
mirror of your test page. The first four run fine, even after
recycling through all six in random fashion. The last two load but
do not function.

Bill

timothy driscoll wrote:
On 2005-04-26 (16:00) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


UNFAIR!!!


Bob, Tim , Phil et. al. My finding is similar and yet different.
I have loaded Tim's original test page, sandwiched between two
pages of mine which use different copies of JmolApplet.jar files
on my local Mac, and all pages execute as designed in Safari,
even reloading in a random fashion. However Bob's two pages,
which I found to perform properly in two earlier tests fail when
added to the group. The others continue to function well after
this addition. Bill


I believe the key here is 'local Mac.'  I have found that this
problem is restricted to server instances, not local filesystems.
so in the first set of three, my test page is the only
server-based example and no failure.  but in he second set, we
have mine plus Bob's pages from different locations, and failure.

any takers?  ;-)


tim





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