David, our statistics suggest that it is time to abandon Netscape 4.x. It just
isn't worth it.
Question: Are iframes "out" in the "frameless" model? I have not found an
alternative (short of a Java applet, I suppose) to the use of frames or iframes
to load independent file data into a web application. Can that be done some
other way? The need is to load data in the form of HTML the way one might load
data in the form of a model. (Now that I think of it, of course, Jmol can do
that -- load any file data from a server -- but it would be a stretch to call
Jmol a general solution to this problem!)
In any case, this is the only use I can think of now for frames, although Eric's
point is well taken, that certain browsers may have bugs that preclude proper
"overflow:auto" behavior. Still, if one hope to have a web application run on
every browser on every platform, that is probably asking too much. One has to
set limits.
Bob
David Leader wrote:
Bob wrote:
When I moved to abandon my own use of frames last year it was a big
step. But I'll certainly never go back. Note that there is still need
of <iframe>s, which allow loading of an independent file into a
"subsection" of a page. But now I hide those and only use them for
data transfer between server and client.
By all means use iFrames if they are the best solution to your problem
and (not unreasonably) you don't intend to support NS 4.x. The
occasional use is certainly less constraining than having to support an
all-frame site. However I can't see how iFrames have any superiority
over regular Frames in terms of web semantics (or whatever you call it).
They both involve reference to an external page which renders pages with
them difficult or impossible to use by command-line neanderths, people
with screen readers, and software designed to repurpose the content as
xml (As I said before, these people/machines are not the target audience
of molecular graphics sites.)
David
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