> On 19-10-2006 9:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> disregarding the underscore is no problem. It is just extraneous, right?
>>
> Bob,
>
> Not so much disregard as simply transform it to a space.
>> also, Jmol should ignore this name and simply read the symmetry operator
>> information in those files. No?
>>
> If the explicit operators are present they should take precedence. I
> think the order should be:
>
> 1) operators
>
> 2) Hall symbol
>
> 3) H-M symbol, space group number
>
> with no effort to reconcile disagreements.

Yes, that's the order Jmol uses. In addition, if an H-M symbol is the only
symbol given, even if there are operators, it tries to assign a Hall name.

(3) is better than that! No time to detail now, but it's a sequence of
tests involving knowing the intl table number, knowing the cell
dimensions, identifying principal axes, etc.




>>
>>> Unfortunately CIFs produced with Crystallographica
>>> http://www.crystallographica.co.uk/ appear to have optional underscores
>>> in
>>> the Hall symbol which cause 10.9.80 to fail silently eg:
>>>
>>> _symmetry_space_group_name_Hall '-P_2'
>>>
>>> This underscore is equivalent to a space according to the CIF spec:
>>> http://www.iucr.org/iucr-top/cif/.checking/symmetry_checklist.html
>>> and is only needed if the symbol is not enclosed in quotes.
>>>
>>> In general, if the Hall space group symbol is not recognised perhaps
>>> Jmol
>>> should fall back on the H-M symbol. And if explicit operators are given
>>> these should be preferred.
>>>
>
> Alan,
>
> What does vcif say about these files?
>
> Rich
>
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