Thomas, Bob,

 >
 >
 > I'd love to see a short "how to"!   :)
 > -Tom
 >


Maybe I can satisfy you both at the same time.

Bob's fix worked well (thanks!):
<http://www.dicoscouts.x10hosting.com/perez.pdf>

For those of you who never opened an interactive pdf before some 
guidelines:
1) click on the structure and keep the left button pressed while 
rotating the structure - as you would do in Jmol
2) similarly use the mouse wheel to zoom/dezoom
3) right click for more options, including the appearance of a task bar

That's all.

As far as I know you can only use the Adobe Reader starting from version 
7 and not pdf readers. However, I prefer the latest version 9, because 
in at least version 8 there is a dotted frame appearing around the 
structure as soon as you click the 3D object. In AR9 this frame is 
absent, but  there is a default 'compass' in the lower left corner but 
this one can be de-activated in the Reader's options (3D content tab)

If your 3D object is really big (ED map, macromolecule maybe) then you 
need computer power in order to see your object in the reader. My 
computer has 3Mb ram and a 3.3GHz processor. You may be disappointed if 
you connect your small notebook (let's say 1.6GHz and 1Mb RAM) to the 
congress beamer ... Although in the latter case you can decide to set 
the image frequency to a lower value in the Reader's 3D options and/or 
to change the optimisation method for small frequency to 'Abandon'. And 
it is a good idea to preload the pdf in the Reader before doing the 
actual presentation.

How can one create such a pdf? You can find bits and pieces on the Web, 
including those in the Jmol wiki. In short it is this:

1)create your structure in Jmol and write an IDTF file
   write IDTF "file.idtf"
2)convert the idtf file to u3d format with the idtfconverter, see also 
here: <http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/File_formats/3D_Objects#U3D>
3)pdflatex a file like the following minimal example
*************************************
\documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{article}
\usepackage{hyperref}
\usepackage[3D]{movie15}

\pagestyle{empty}

\begin{document}

  \begin{center}
   \includemovie[
    label=een,
     autoplay,
     repeat=1,
     toolbar=true,
3Droo=33.34789768949952,
3Dcoo=0.000000257883272070 -0.000000283616543584 -0.000000327838080239,
3Dc2c=-0.7544490694999695 -0.5638955235481262 0.33589935302734375,
3Droll=-18.778433745507403,
3Dbg=.66 1. 0.83,
3Dlights=Headlamp,
inline=true,
   ]{0.9\textwidth}{0.9\textwidth}{een.u3d}
%  \\
%\movieref[3Dcalculate]{een}{Click here!}
\end{center}
\end{document}
*********************************
4) decomment in a first run the \movieref line. You will have the 
possibility to better center the object and by clicking on 'click here!' 
AR calculates you a new set of coordinates that may replace by copy and 
paste the old set. The bigger the object the longer AR takes to 
calculate the set of coordinates. Be patient, this may be long and not 
feasable on a notebook. By the way, if your initial set of coordinates 
is totally wrong, then you may not see your object at all after the 
initial pdflatex runs. You need to zoom or dezoom and/or translate to 
get the object into your visible frame.
5) as soon as you have a nice set of coordinates you may comment again 
the movieref line and set toolbar to false.

This is it: yes it is a bit cumbersome, but it is worthwhile if you want 
to have your structure/molecules as 3D objects in your pdf presentation. 
The alternative is of course to open Jmol next to your presentation. The 
advantage is that you have all the options of Jmol available, which you 
do not have in AR - the only thing you can do there is 
rotating/translating/zooming. But if your presentation is only 20 or 30 
minutes, I prefer to do it without 'break', thus without opening another 
application. Of course this is a matter of taste.

Sorry Tom, it was not that short.

best wishes, Arie




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Institut Européen des Membranes
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