Hi I am a headhunter and contractor provider who does a LOT of Perl search and placement (about 30 fills over last 18 months).
When you post you should make the distinction that you are a software engineer turned headhunter, so dealing with you will be more comfortable for other Perl SWEs. Besides, headhunters are a thick skinned bunch and we will slam you and point out your deficiencies but we will never be insulted... *wink* As to developing your business beyond your one shop... I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you... Just kidding. What geographic market are you in? Give a call and I will give you a few pointers. Lars _____________________________ Larson J. Rider PrideStaff (408) 298-6775 office (408) 661-7260 cell - after hours www.pridestaff.com -----Original Message----- From: Uri Guttman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 9:39 PM To: jobs-discuss@perl.org Subject: Re: quandry >>>>> "WM" == Walt Mankowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: WM> On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 07:00:52PM +0200, Dr.Ruud wrote: >> Take what life presents to you, when life presents it. "Adopt, Adapt, >> Improve." "When life gives you lemons, make lemonade." WM> You seem to be enjoying the work but feeling a bit guilty about it. WM> Don't they pay you head hunters enough to afford therapy? :) well, it isn't any ethical problem with the work itself. i have gotten work via headhunters (but not in years. they dropped out of the perl market after the bust) so i know them well and i actually respect what they are for even if i don't respect all the practioners. and the pay for the amount of work is much better than any programming job i have ever had (understanding that i never hit it big with any IPO's :( ). my hit ratio in this situation is pretty high from what i know. i have sent in 3 for onsite interviews and 1 was already hired. and i have another onsite scheduled and another in the phone interview phase. given how picky this shop is (and they are VERY picky) i am probably blowing away any of those agents. more on this below. my quandry can be better expressed if i were to post about these leads as other agents are posting. what would be proper to write about how i am different than the other agents?? can i really say i have a better entree into the shop? or that my knowing perl well will make me a better judge of an applicant's talent and i could do a better job getting them interviewed? given that multiple agencies posted about this before means that i don't have any issues with posting about it too. but is there a boundary that i shouldn't cross or maybe i could approach? do i say that i am a perl hacker who is doing this on the side so i know more about the work than any other agent could? but i think i won't even post the jobs (for now) as i seem to be doing well with direct connections. i know so many perl hackers all over and many top level ones that i can discretely approach some about this shop. and as i have mentioned above that so far i have had a good hit ratio. now my real quandry is do i try to expand this business to beyond this shop? i fell into this situation and i am running with it for this shop but how do i find others? i have no connections into large corps with perl work. or rather i have some but not with the manager types who hire. i don't want to become what i despise in many headhunter places. what i have really like about what i have done so far is that almost all my applicants are perl people i know and some for many years. so i will continue doing hunting for this shop as they have several more slots to fill and i imagine more will open as the work grows. and i have also opportunities to consult for them doing perl stuff but that is another story. any headhunters on this list that would be able to chat about this? or have i insulted them all? :) thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org