Helllo Faisal, thanks alot That what we talked about today me and Ma'moun Akash, the problem is " you can't force 84 persons to have the same target" all the luggers want to learn but by the way they like, many say, "I don't like to have a lecture -2 hours- for a topic I am not interesting in, I have different friends to learn from them, I have google, I have books. Any body in the Lug can teach himself, but what really all the Luggers want is a word of mouth, I want to know a title of a topic, I don't want Alaa Halasa to stand 2 hours talking about GWT, just tell me that there is something called GWT that convert java to javascript, and I can go." What really will be a successful meeting is a social meeting talking about general topics, not to discuss the problems of the Lug, NO NO NO, make a sessions socially. it will be nice experience. I am sadly telling you that always we have negative feedback for every new idea. Dear Luggers, we need for about 6 months social meetings 1 per month (word of mouth meeting). We can't build a second floor before the basement. we need to know each other so we can have different ideas to make the Lug successful. We don't want anybody to persuade us that his idea is true and the others are wrong. I am telling you that we need to start correctly with new blood and new mentality and before anything with freedom I am sure that if we continue telling ourselves that the lectures are good and we feel fulfillment from giving lectures (I don't think so) we will failed I can tell you a roadmap, Guys, and if anybody agree with me just tell us here we need first to make a powerful social network (about 6 months) then we will see INTAJ to host us as an IT group (at the first of 2008) then we will spread as a groups each of them has specific target I need one person to say yes to start salam
----- Original Message ---- From: Al-Faisal El-Dajani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jordan Linux User Group Mailing list <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:25:21 PM Subject: [JoLUG-General] Where did we go wrong? Hello All, So, after yesterday's lecture, we sat down and started discussing the next one and we noticed that the luggers were 1) Not asking for topics, 2) Not stepping up to give lectures, and 3) Not attending lectures. I'm sure that most of you are well accomplished in the computer industry, but surely there must be something that you don't know/want to know/can share!! The thing that perks me the most is, the lug doesn't seem to be appreciative of the facilities we have, and we definitely are not capitalizing on them. I know for a fact, that members of other lugs would die to find a suitable place to meet at on a regular basis. Yet, we have access to fully equipped labs and simply refuse to use them. There is something wrong in this picture!! If you do not appreciate what you have, then you are bound to lose it. After Mousa explained to me the great lengths he and saddam went through to prepare for the previous lecture, and how only one person showed up, i was seriously annoyed. If i spent more than six hours in a lab preparing for a lecture that was announced for 4 weeks, and then nobody showed up, i would completely give up on the LUG. Not to mention that Mousa is cutting no less than 3 hours every week of his own personal free weekend time, to try to show support, and getting a cold shoulder in return. So, this goes out to everybody (although i'm sure we will only get replies from the usual few who actually reply... hmm, maybe we should give a lecture about using mail clients), What exactly is it that you want from the lug? Social events, not many show up, and nothing of importance happens. We scheduled bi monthly meetings, and only the first 3 meetings got through. Lecture, first 2 lectures are stacked, then nobody shows up. Public awareness campaigns (like the recent one at JU), a handful of people offered to help. I just checked and we have 84 members in the jolug google group. Where are those people? Why is it that anybody that reads our archives thinks that the lug is only ~20 people? Why is jolug.org so dead? It's a great site, with great potential, but without user interaction, it's of no good use to anybody. So, i'll repeat my question again: What do you want from JoLug? The next meeting is scheduled on June 1st, it will be held at ITU, and will be a social event, just trying to figure the mess we are in. One can only hope that something comes out of it. -- Al-Faisal El-Dajani Phone: +962-7-77 799 781 P.O Box: 140056 11814 Amman, Jordan ____________________________________________________________________________________Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jolug" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Jolug?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
