Maybe you did not understand me well. It's quite ok if SOAP gets integrated into JOnAS, but we have to integrate much more then to make it a round product AND we have to tell clearly that JOnAS is no more an EJB container, but a greater work that incorporates an EJB container and the SOAP communication protocol. It's only a question of definition and control.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Jonas SOAP Support? (16-Okt-2001 14:55) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > No problem. Suggestion withdrawn. > > -Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tue 10/16/2001 1:01 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: > Subject: Re: Jonas SOAP Support? > > > > I agree with you that we should look forward to see what is > coming in next versions of J2EE. But shouldn't we first look at > _current_ spec? There are lots of things in J2EE 1.2/1.3 (even in EJB > 2.0) that JOnAS is miles away from (Where is the new CMP model? Where is > security services? Where is container interoperability? etc.). Before we > discuss, what could be in J2EE 1.4 (e. g., what does this relate to an > EJB-container-only-product?) we should discuss how to implement the > _current_ spec. After that, we should discuss on a higher level: Is > JOnAS really only an EJB container, or will it tend to become a complete > server product that is greater than J2EE (since SOAP is not mandatory in > neither J2EE 1.2 nor 1.3, but only an option that COULD come in the next > release, that, if we are honest, does not appear before the next twelve > months). So the question is: quo vadis, JOnAS? I mean, what sense does > it make to implement SOAP ontop of JOnAS if JOnAS is currently not able > to do all ! > what EJB 2.0 tells? At > ent, JOnAS is a horizontal layer in the J2EE architecture, with > SOAP ontop, it will become a totally specialized product. If we plan to > make JOnAS a _complete_ server product, including top-level protocols > like SOAP or HTTPS, we should make a good plan how to implement this. > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: Jonas SOAP Support? (15-Okt-2001 21:32) > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > True, JOnAS is an EJB container only; however, there are parts > to JOnAS > > that are not part of the J2EE specification, such as the > introduction of > > JMX for application management. > > > > The thought was to incorportate JAXM, JSR-67, into JOnAS. > From the JAXM > > v0.94 spec section 2.4, "JAXM applications may be deployed in > Servlet > > 2.2 and/or J2EE 1.3 containers. It is anticipated that future > version > > of the J2EE specification will include JAXM-specific > deployment > > information." > > > > From the J2EE 1.3 specification, section 11.1, "Support for > web services > > is likely to be a primary focus for the next version of J2EE." > This > > includes JSR-67. > > > > If development thinks that JAXM and web services should remain > on the > > web tier, then I'll withdraw the suggestion. > > > > Jim Shain > > Sr. Architect > > ALLTEL Information Services > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 9:52 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Jonas SOAP Support? > > > > > > But what sense does this make? JOnAS is an EJB container only, > not a > > complete server product. Or is the project target changed and > JOnAS aim > > is now to build a complete server product? > > ---- > > To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > > include in the body of the message "unsubscribe jonas-users". > > For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > > include in the body of the message "help". > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ---- > To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > include in the body of the message "unsubscribe jonas-users". > For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > include in the body of the message "help". > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---- To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "unsubscribe jonas-users". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
