'you gotta shake your fist at lightning now, you gotta roll like forest
fire" "not til you burn up every passion"
Hey, what is the matter with passion? When I write here I do so with
passion. I believe that you all do to. That is why (I) came here.
Sometimes I read things that I do not like. Sometimes I write things that
others don't like. If I do not express myself, then I am cheating myself.
I am not expressing my passion. I cannot keep it inside and I will not. I
don't want anyone here to suppress their feelings, how they think, and what
they think. It is important to me. If you disagree with me or think that I
am full of shit, say so. Tell me to fuck off. I can take it. I may get
angry, or hurt, but I will never regret coming here and will never regret
that you had the right to express your opinion to me. To hold these
thoughts and feelings in is not natural and I, for one, am not interested in
sitting around being gooey and mushy all of the time. That doesn't help me
to grow, to expand, and to become a better person. Mike from Barcelona
upsets me just about every time he gets on his computer. Do I hate him for
it? Do I wish he would shut up and go away forever? Do I even dislike him?
NO! NO! NO! I respect him for saying what HE thinks. Even if I never
agree with a word that he writes I respect him for doing so. If I had the
choice of sitting next to someone who agreed with every single thing that I
said or discussing things with Mike, I would choose Mike. Why? Because he
makes me better. He makes me stronger. Some part of him, perhaps the best
of him, seeps into who I am, what I am, and what I want to be. As far as I
am concerned this is like a family, like no other, and within it there are
going to be disagreements. That makes my love for you all grow stronger. I
read a post earlier from some guy who said on other lists there is not this
bickering (paraphrase). I don't consider it bickering. I consider it an
exchange of ideas. So what is someone loses their temper. Does that mean
they hate me? I don't think so and what if they do, will I die from it?
No, it makes me better and stronger and maybe, just maybe, if I was wrong
then next time I will react in a more positive manner. I want real life
here and that is what I have seen. I find you all lovely.
Lieve, please don't shut-up! Express it. Vince, you are probably already
gone but if you are not, then I wish you would reconsider for I find your
posts interesting even if I have not agreed with them, and I wasn't even
into the Catholic debate for I know little about the Catholic church. Take
heed from Joni herself "show em you won't expire" "you gotta spread your
light like blazes all across the sky" "you gotta try" Have not known you
long enough to call you friend but when I do I will always defend your
honor. I am the truest of blue.
I think you are marvelous people.
Best wishes,
Mack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bree Mcdonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: grief and hurt(njc)
> >>in what I thought was a reasonably courteous manner (until I was asked
so
> >courteously the shut the feck up...). I repeat, I did not jump to quick
> >conclusions, I did not judge anyone. Lieve.
>
> When I joined this list I thought it would be full of grown-ups. Anyone
> into Joni's music must be mature and open-minded? I don't know now? I
> always cringe when I hear the words shut-up.......I guess because growing
up
> my mother would not allow us to say SHUT-up to siblings or anyone for that
> matter.
>
> Sorry, Lieve, I thought this list was supposed to be free-flowing, you
know,
> give your opinion and if I so choose, I'll give mine.
>
> I'll SHUT-UP now with this in mind, Joni would NOT like us trying to gag
> each other when we don't like something they said.... that is not what she
> is about. (Lieve, hope to see you at Jonifest next year..hang on,...it
will
> be a bumpy ride! (levity)
>
> Bree
>
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