>  The
> important thing to remember about drugs is that some do have very favorable
> benefits, if taken properly.

Lithium, even taken properly, (tho it isn;t the sort of drug one would abuse
anyway) is a dangerous drug and has nasty side effects-like death. As do many
other drugs.
Yes some people benfit, others do not. The side effects are NOT genrally
publiscised and deaths form them are attributed to something else-like liver
failure, kidney failure, heart failure etc when it wasas the drug that caused
it.

As for OC-it is a terrible thing to suffer from-I know I was cumpulsive washer
and checker. Took me ages to leave the house because I'd have to keep going back
to check I'd turned taps and gas and electric off and that I had locked the
door. My washing was particularly centred on my hair. Solved htat by shaving it
off and I have kept it that way for years. the other OC has also stopped. No
pill did this-but facing what i had to face with the right help to do so.
I think the pushing of pills onto people does them a great dis service.. yes,
they perhaps help in the short term but only by doing the inner work will these
things go away. that takes time and courage and people who know what they are
about when helping people.

the trouble with pills is they change the way a person feels, and all they
really do is shove the feelings further down. this doesn't resolve anything. It
is not different to sometone deciding to self medicate-i.e drink or illegal
drugs.

Another thing to ebar in mind ais that there is absolutely no proof whaysoever
that mental illness is biological in nature. No chemicals have been pinpointed,
no genes found. yet theis theory, which is all it is, has been genrally accpeted
on hearsay by scientists who really ought to know better. The people who really
benefit are the drug companies, their shareholders and the dr who is gauranteed
ehri patient returns and returns for more 'help'.

>
>
> Mack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Doctor's pills give you brand new ills (SJC)
>
> > Dear Colin,
> > It's so weird that I've been listening to this very song all day today
> while
> > working. I haven't pulled out my Turbulent Indigo CD for quite a while.
> It's
> > an absolutely fantastic CD.
> >
> > A friend's mother (who also became my friend) was prescribed Lithium back
> in
> > the 70's for her depression. I came over one day to visit her and was
> blown
> > away by the change in her personality. She was acting like she was living
> in
> > slow motion. I have suffered from depression all of my life, but after
> seeing
> > her and another ex-schoolmate on Thorazine, I swore that I would never
> take
> > any pills. Even back then, I felt that they would be extremely bad for me
> > personally. After reading your post, I now know that I was not wrong, at
> > least for myself.
> >
> > It's hard to fight depression cold turkey, but I've done it for many
> years.
> > One of the tricks I have recently learned is to drink a cup of coffee,
> > especially after a bad night. For some reason, the chemicals in the brain
> go
> > wacky and I have found that coffee helps my brain get back into gear.
> >
> > I've never admitted that I suffer from depression. I've seen how people
> are
> > treated in the workplace when they admit a vulnerability such as
> depression
> > or any type of dependency. They are treated like damaged goods and it is
> done
> > in such a sneaky way, it's hard to prove. Now that I am no longer in the
> > workplace, I can finally come to honest terms with what I have hidden for
> > years. You guys are the first people I've admitted this to because you are
> my
> > Jonilista family!
> >
> > Sherelle-NP Dave Koz-The Dance (Be Be Winans singing)
> >
> > In a message dated 10/17/2001 10:30:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > writes:
> >
> >
> > > Getting off was hell. other drugs for my Bipolar have caused me liver
> > > trouble(cirrhosis) and heart probelms. Which is why I refuse to take
> > > meds now. Many drugs, especially the psych drugs, cause bad side
> > > effects-some casue brain damage and the damage can be permanent. I don't
> > > think people fulyy understand the eeffect of these drugs nor the
> > > suffering they cause to the person taking them. If they did, they might
> > > not clamour for people with mental health probs to take them. eevn the
> > > modern antui depressants like Prozac have serious side effects in some
> > > people.

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