mack the dolphin states:
> ?  I only wish it were that simple.
> 
to me....this is the bottom line and exactly right.  it's not simple at all.  

flags.  to me...the flag is a symbol of safety.  safety of knowing that we 
can believe as we choose and we will defend our nation.  our country...the 
USA....has shaped and formed each of our minds and thoughts.  to say....give 
peace a chance....is so simple.  yet...it's flavored by the blood of so many 
martyrs.  innocent people who gave their lives to build a nation that valued 
freedom of mind over spoon fed doctirne.

remember john l. in the nyc tee shirt. 

at the end of the day...real lives have been lost in the USA.  this war on 
terrorism is not about vengence or justice or striking back.  it's about 
making our nation safe.  our nation.  the one that we live in.  the one we 
grew up in.  the one that allows us to make our music.  

it's a nasty world out there.  always has been.  dog eat dog.  but the USA 
protects is borders and its cities.  that is...until some criminal thieves 
stole our planes and destroyed our cities.  like patty smith said....the 
shame of the towers was that they were twins.  there were two of them.  

give peace a chance....yet the stench of OUR neighbors still reeks in lower 
manhattan.  

the world as one place?   no.  not when there are people wanting to kill us.  
in this situation...we hold together as a group and defend our flanks and our 
cities and our borders.  we would not be here today if others had not done 
the same thing. when the dust settles...then!!! we think about peace.  then 
we think about healing. 

the flag is a symbol of safety and one of recognition and one of thanksgiving 
for our safe place.  to not see that...to look for a bigger freedom and a 
more sharing world....

that's just too simple for me.  too much blood has already proved that wrong. 
 

i mean...people are killing americans.   to me...it's that simple.  we defend 
our own.  

lets just have a big love in!!!!  no.  not today, when the bodies still burn 
in nyc.  today we fight to win, and shut down the enemies.  shut down as in 
....kill dead.  

tomorrow...when the killers are not around us.....we give peace a chance.  

and mack is absolutely right.  this list is way to left on this issue.  and 
like three or four people only have stood up for this country and it's 
choices today in a sheer dilemma situation.  

but for me...i know that like 90% of all americans stand behind the 
government's choices today and this list is the anomoly.  we are that way on 
this list because of the music.  but music is only one part of life.  flesh 
and blood is another.  

this war is about keeping americans safe.  that's a bitter pill to swallow.  
makes one not want to accept that fact.   people who believe in the freedom 
of the USA, and fight for it's safety,..... make it safe for pacifists to 
dream about peace. 

yet it's always easier to point the finger and say....hey!!! give peace a 
chance!  

that is....after a bunch of unknowns have already died to really...give peace 
a chance.

this pisses me off.  real people...innocent people....7000 people...are dead 
today.

there will be no peace because of that.  not for a long while.  that's a 
complex thing to accept. 
pat 

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