[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> on and on and on.   i think that is what colin meant.   and debra.   (if i
> may be so bold.)

Yes, Ric, that is what I had in mind. Thanks very much for giving such
clear examples.

And as Yael mentioned in another message, even if there's not a
conscious political motive behind our actions, there are always
political consequences.

It's hard to see them and especially hard to take responsibility for
them when looking at just one person's actions. An one example, it's not
one steak dinner that's a problem (although some people would say it is
healthwise), but when millions of people are eating beef and don't want
to pay much for it, then the result is that cattle in the U.S. are
raised as cheaply as possible, which means inefficiently, even though
one of the consequences of that is depleting the water table under the
Midwest, a resource that can never be replaced. (How can that be
explained to people 200 years from now?)

It's also hard to see the connection between one's actions and the
political consequences since the issues are so complex that it's not
always possible to know what horror an action is "supporting". It's no
longer just the cheap clothes that are made in sweatshops. 

When I think of "political" I think of it as the community as a whole
and how I relate to it, not just a political party, and my actions
(steak for dinner every night?) reflect that. When it comes to voting,
my hope is always that the political party I choose to vote for will
extend to the community (the country, the world, the future) the values
I consider important. But it never works so neatly. The compromises of
politics and the majority rule on every issue take over and the results
are never as clear as the ideals are. It's still better I think to start
from those ideals and go from there...

There are so many messages I'd like to respond to, but just don't have
the time today. One last thing... guilt? I don't know that anyone's
aiming to produce that. Awareness, though, is something to aim for I
think. What one does with that... well, there's a thousand possibilities
for that one. That's where politics is very personal.

Gotta go, (and I'm hoping this rushed message makes sense), oops, really
gotta go,

Debra Shea

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