holy shite...this is cold & cruel...what about parents who have kids & the
funds to raise them but do so irresponsibly (abuse, neglect, or just plain
rotten values)?


You are absolutely right!!! They should not have children either.
Just because you have money should not give you the privilege to have children. There are many financially secure individuals that have no concept of raising children and so those children grow up to be irresponsible, neglectful and down right rotten. These children grow up to be a psychological burden on our society. Likewise, there are many poor individuals who have impeccable morality and ethics, but if they are on welfare, then they have no reason to be having children that become a financial burden on our society. Bottom line, if you can't financially support children then you should not have them. If you can't raise children to be moral and ethical individuals then you have no right to have them either. We can talk about exception until the cows come home and some of those exceptions are VERY valid and others are a crock of crap. In general, children should be a burden to no one but their parents.
There is no such thing as a perfect parent and don't ask me to come up with the guidelines or definitions of a good parent. In my opinion, if your going to have kids, you better be better than average, because often times just average doesn't cut it. If you can't raise them and support them without the help of any one else, don't have them. Having children is not a necessity, it is a privileged luxury. Sure there are exceptions but you can't overburden our society with too many of those either. Sorry Kate, there is nothing "cold or cruel" about that (and the word "holy" has nothing to do with it either).

My grandmother(having been upper-middle class in her country) came to this country and became part of the lower class non-English speaking population. She arrived here with 3 children and extremely grateful that this country took her and her children in. She learned English as best she could and got herself a job as a factory worker. Never once did she burden this country by asking it for food stamps, welfare checks, or any other assistance, etc... She was given an opportunity and made the best of it. She wasn't a perfect mother but she was way above average!

Recently, I sat and listened to a conversation between two friends of mine. One of them an American by way of acquired citizenship(living in this country for 20 years after political asylum), the other a native born American from many generation past. Both of them had financial difficulties and the usual maxed-out multiple credit card syndrome. The native born stated "Why don't you just apply for bankruptcy? That's what I did!" The the non-native born replied "I could never do that to this country, its given me too much for me to pass on my financial responsibility to some one else". I wish more native born and non-native born US citizen had such a healthy outlook on responsibility towards our country instead of overburdening it. I can't tell you if this lady would make a great parent, but she's got some of the ingredients I'd be looking for.
Will

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